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Cooper
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Re: Set List Wilkes-Barre, PA 11/5

#81033 2 years, 8 months ago
wlewis wrote:
Cooper wrote:
taper.tsquare wrote:
Holy moly!!! Now that's a freakin' great setlist!!!! Last night was great, but not unique. Tonight's set list lOoks like Furthur on steroids. Can't wait to hear it!!!!

Tsquare, Main was NOT unique? I have every show and Main was off the hook. Incredable shows both nights BUT look at Main's setlist again and tell me that isn't the most unique whacked out set list of ALL times.


the maine setlist is about as run of the mill as they come. the one thing i will give it is the placement of feel like a stranger and brown eyed women. were they swapped from the actual setlist? even then, they've closed a set with brown eyed. nothing new or out of the ordinary played


Not meaning to disagree but Main Setlist run of the mill? Just listened to the board. Let me preface my statistics by stating that I could care less if this band did nothing but play the same song for 3 hours every night! It makes me cry, laugh, and get angry at some of the comments I read about from people who claim they know when a show is good. Everyone who knows anything about judging the band knows that unless you are sober, with your ears to the sound ONLY - the true test comes when you can listen to the musicians themselves with out the drunk a-hole yelling Jack Straw after EVERY song of the first set at Manchester! (Funny thing is the boys played it in the second set - probably to shut this guy up )

Lets just talk about song selection/set list before we get into the actual insanity of how this show was played….Ok, enough said - look at this info:

Last time they played Passenger, I was front row and it SMOKED and CLOSED the set! They have never done a Passenger>Cosmic Charlie to open a show or anywhere

Last time they did Come Together was during Phil’s last birthday run – Abbey Road Album on the east coast. That was 55 shows ago. (2nd EVER)

A first set Born Cross-Eyed only comes from CRAZY first sets. Played in first set only 6 times – vs- second set 17 times (almost 3 times more likely to see this song in second set)

The last deal, stranger combo? How about ONLY one time EVER in 2009 and that was the first Deal breakout of Furthur…..

Brown Eyed Women has NEVER closed a first set. Considering the CRAZY weather on the east coast – and the snow threats pretty cool closer! “Snowed so hard made the roof came in”…(Reminds me of the Cleveland GD show that I was at after the famous missed snowed-out show… I fought the law breakout)

Second set China Cat opener? ONLY done 3 times out of the 33 times this band has played!!! Also, skip ahead to have Rider close the 2nd set? A CHINA / RIDER second set SANDWICH, only been done 1 time before….

When is the last time you heard an early second set Stephen cut short by a 15 minute Dark Start with JK going nuts on a midi… Then to go back into a Stephen with Phil thundering like it had never been played and wont ever again (ya right?)

They have ONLY played Other One out of Stephen>Eleven> ONE TIME (I was there and it was off the hook)

They have NEVER played a complete Dark Star, A Stephen/Eleven and an Unbroken in the same set or the same show for that matter. Those three songs can hold their OWN on any second set during the tour. This would be more of a greatest hits combo then seeing them together!

They have NEVER done a Stella out of UNBROKEN CHAIN. And never gone straight into a Rider out of Stella.(They did a stop and go ONLY once)


11/4/2011 Cumberland County Civic Center, Portland, ME

I: Passenger > Cosmic Charlie, Born Cross-Eyed > Crazy Fingers > Come Together, Deal, Feel Like a Stranger, Brown-Eyed Women

II: China Cat Sunflower > The Mountain Song > St. Stephen > Dark Star > St. Stephen > The Eleven > The Other One > Unbroken Chain, Stella Blue > I Know You Rider
E: Touch of Grey
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wlewis
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Re: Set List Wilkes-Barre, PA 11/5

#81428 2 years, 8 months ago
Not meaning to disagree but Main Setlist run of the mill? Just listened to the board. Let me preface my statistics by stating that I could care less if this band did nothing but play the same song for 3 hours every night! It makes me cry, laugh, and get angry at some of the comments I read about from people who claim they know when a show is good. Everyone who knows anything about judging the band knows that unless you are sober, with your ears to the sound ONLY - the true test comes when you can listen to the musicians themselves with out the drunk a-hole yelling Jack Straw after EVERY song of the first set at Manchester! (Funny thing is the boys played it in the second set - probably to shut this guy up )

i suppose if you want to look at some of it that way, some of the pairings were unique to the show. were any songs or material new? no. but in actuality, isn't that what this band has been doing since the start? i've never felt like setlists were plagued with the same songs in the same spots. but they sure as hell repeat a lot of songs, just sliding them in different spots of their setlists. i guess it's just something i've grown accustomed to seeing this band. thanks for some of those little tidbits of information but i have a couple things..


as far as come together, i don't remember one since boston tour opener of the spring.

i don't want you to think i am contesting any of your information or starting with you, i know i can come across as a know it all. it also seems like we both have a knack for setlists and statistics.

i just have one question. if they've never closed a first set with brown eyed women. what was the last song of the first set on 2011-02-11?? the first night of the broomfield run.

also, having seen these guys 86 times, i tend to occasionally take some things for granted
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scar1et_f1re
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R U Kind?

Re: Set List Wilkes-Barre, PA 11/5

#81512 2 years, 8 months ago
SunshineSue wrote:
Isn't it a casino? They probably want everyone out playing blackjack now!


I THINK the casino was ~ 5 mile away. I went from my hotel to the Mohegan Sun something or other (Racetrack I think or perhaps the casino) and saw people with guitars, etc but it was the wrong Mohegan Sun.

Kind show, and open floor GA made it all the better.

Thanks for posting the set-lists, reviews, etc all. Sometimes it gets a bit fuzzy afterwords. Must be a contact high, right?
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83msg1sttyme
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Re: Set List Wilkes-Barre, PA 11/5

#81515 2 years, 8 months ago
i picked up the beautiful tapestry for the fall tour its really something else .i was in upper level and the sound was off for the first few songs but the board adjusted and it was awesome after that. we had a great time ran into tye dye dave got our free buttons,met mushroomman and his bother jeff after the show,the second set was great the estimated /eyes was stellar the weight was a real treat as was dear prudence got my fire no scarlet they saved that for the next nite and my terrapin.in the lot before the show the guy next to me miracled a girl with long dreads she was soooo happy i chated withhim for a awhile nice guy jeff was his name he wanted althea i guess his miracle was rewarded.i want to say im very upset with some of the fan behavior. after the show people were falling down left and right due to ballons i caught several just in time one girl i caught was being berated by her boyfriend for being a liteweight,real gent. another jerk with 40 oz in hand was berating his girl for not selling enough trinkets ,real pimp like behavior sad truly sad i tried to help one kid who obviously had too much acid but to no avail he ran outside into the freezing nite hope he s okay people sit down if your going to do those stupid ballons coming too with no front teeth is going to suck help each other out in the lot.it really left a bad taste in my mouth what i saw saturday nite. i may take a break and just listen at home cuz i cant stand to see this shit anymore.
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taper.tsquare
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Re: Set List Wilkes-Barre, PA 11/5

#81616 2 years, 8 months ago
Cooper wrote:
taper.tsquare wrote:
Holy moly!!! Now that's a freakin' great setlist!!!! Last night was great, but not unique. Tonight's set list lOoks like Furthur on steroids. Can't wait to hear it!!!!

Tsquare, Main was NOT unique? I have every show and Main was off the hook. Incredable shows both nights BUT look at Main's setlist again and tell me that isn't the most unique whacked out set list of ALL times.


don't get me wrong, on paper the Maine selist is a really good one. the order of songs showed some nice creativity. i've also listened to the show and it's wonderful. the band sounds great. i just think there are a lot of songs on that night that get played a lot. from that perspective it's definitely not unique.
Cooper
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Re: Set List Wilkes-Barre, PA 11/5

#81783 2 years, 8 months ago
wlewis wrote:
Not meaning to disagree but Main Setlist run of the mill? Just listened to the board. Let me preface my statistics by stating that I could care less if this band did nothing but play the same song for 3 hours every night! It makes me cry, laugh, and get angry at some of the comments I read about from people who claim they know when a show is good. Everyone who knows anything about judging the band knows that unless you are sober, with your ears to the sound ONLY - the true test comes when you can listen to the musicians themselves with out the drunk a-hole yelling Jack Straw after EVERY song of the first set at Manchester! (Funny thing is the boys played it in the second set - probably to shut this guy up )

i suppose if you want to look at some of it that way, some of the pairings were unique to the show. were any songs or material new? no. but in actuality, isn't that what this band has been doing since the start? i've never felt like setlists were plagued with the same songs in the same spots. but they sure as hell repeat a lot of songs, just sliding them in different spots of their setlists. i guess it's just something i've grown accustomed to seeing this band. thanks for some of those little tidbits of information but i have a couple things..


as far as come together, i don't remember one since boston tour opener of the spring.

i don't want you to think i am contesting any of your information or starting with you, i know i can come across as a know it all. it also seems like we both have a knack for setlists and statistics.

i just have one question. if they've never closed a first set with brown eyed women. what was the last song of the first set on 2011-02-11?? the first night of the broomfield run.

also, having seen these guys 86 times, i tend to occasionally take some things for granted


You are correct, I must have missed that one in my hazy rant. They did close that night after that sick as heck set with what I heard as Essau with my friends, only to be proven when the set list was posted. Great catch. Point is that I think the Main show was awesome stuff, one i will be listening too plenty of times as I drive from Albany to INDY
Schwartz
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Re: Set List Wilkes-Barre, PA 11/5

#81830 2 years, 8 months ago
Thanks for the terrific review - here is my take on Wilkes Barre, with 2 cents thrown in about Manchester:

Some Thoughts After Two Great Nights of Furthur
Having seen two of the first three nights of the tour (Manchester and Wilkes Barre), a few thoughts about the band, how well they are playing, and the music. Since I am posting this in the thread of Wilkes Barre reviews, I’ll address that show first. The first set was filled with highlights, including a terrific Bucket > Half Step opener, and a great version of Althea, perhaps this band’s best. But two additional items bear mention: one is the new Weir song Big Bad Blues. It is a great tune, the band digs into it, wonderful Hunter lyrics, I just can’t say enough about it. The vocal bridge, with everyone in the band singing the line “rat shack talk about a one eyed jack” is alone worth the price of admission. Who is the Jack of Diamonds? Weir? Jerry? Both? Hard to say, but I love the tune. The second thing was the ending of the set - very nicely played Music, followed by an absolutely over the top Casey Jones. I simply can not describe the end of Casey Jones, with the band speeding up each chorus to the point where everyone was laughing, Chimenti practically falling off of his bench, Phil grinning ear to ear - just get ahold of a recording of the show and give it a listen.
Second set started out with a very tight One More Saturday Night, and a nice version of the Weight, everyone in the audience singing along to the chorus. Just before the set started, after band was on stage, Weir and JK were consulting, I guess figuring out who was going to take which verse of the Weight. Then things got very serious - Estimated > Eyes > Fire > Viola Lee > Dear Prudence. Each song superbly played with great energy, perfect spot on transitions, no lyric flubs, just smoking hot all the way through. In particular the Chimenti piano solo on Eyes, the great guitar work by JK on Fire, the entire band taking it to a different level on Viola Lee Blues, and a gorgeous, gorgeous Dear Prudence. At that point we were ready for a Not Fade or a Sugar Mag, but the opening power chord of Help on the Way let us know we had a good 20 minutes of music left. Wild Slipknot in the new style, taking the jam way out before bringing it back, and the Phil power chord at the transition point between Help on the Way and Slipknot was one for the ages - you could feel it go all the way through your body, and I was surprised the PA system didn’t blow out. What a show!
All that being said, Manchester, the opening night of the tour, was no slouch. I loved the opening - Playin > Cold Rain, Cassidy. Very hot Bertha > Good Lovin’ to close the set, which was a real treat. The hidden gem in there was the Lazy River Road, one of my favorite late Jerry songs, and beautifully played. Second set also extremely well played. The Shakedown > Jack Straw opener was superb, and the Jack Straw one of the hottest on record by this band. Great Let It Grow, soaring vocals on the Wheel, and yes, a distinct and clearly intentional Supplication jam before the King Solomon’s Marbles. Classic, beautiful, moving Black Peter, surprise Gimme Some Lovin’ with Phil and JK singing together, like the old Phil and Brent versions. Beautiful Uncle John’s, one of the best I’ve heard from Furthur, and then the only option to close, the Playin’ playout.
A couple of last thoughts. Phil continues to astonish. The Manchester show clocks in at a full three hours of music, and Phil doesn’t let up, just playing his heart out. JK seems more and more assertive, and he was turned up and very clear - he was very, very hot in the Bertha, the Jack Straw, the Let It Grow and Gimme Some Lovin’ from Manchester, and pretty much the entire show in Wilkes Barre. And Bobby is very focused - none of the going back to his equipment constantly, almost perfect with lyrics the two shows I saw, really spot on. Russo amazes me on the drum kit - it is like watching an octopus play the drums. Last thing - very inventive setlists - both first and second sets. I was a bit worried from the ‘early’ fall tour that the first sets were becoming relatively short warm ups, as they were for the Dead in the late 80s and 90s. But both first sets I saw were long, hot, and had great song selections. Thanks Furthur! Can’t wait for MSG Thursday night!
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Re: Set List Wilkes-Barre, PA 11/5

#82326 2 years, 8 months ago
I have seen Furthur 20 times or so and each time it is a roller coaster ride. Well, nothing different in Wilkes-Barre. The first set may have been the worst set I have ever seen them do? During set break, Joe Pa, Penn State's longtime coach must have shown up and given the band a lashing because the second set was really fun. They let JK go and do his thing and the show turned a complete 360. Furthur is hit or miss for me.
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