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deadegad
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Re: GUYS YOU REALLY HAVE TO STOP PLAYING THE BEACON

#149230 2 years, 6 months ago
ecojaded wrote:
Tom Banjo- I haven't read this dribble nor do I intend to insert myself in theis mess, but I really don't feel a need for anyone to leave the forum based on one thread. Although you used some stong language through out. Whadidyaexpect ?!!?

Tell more jokes and we should all be able to get a long just fine. Geezz Guys ! If they stop playing the Beacon it won't be on your call, it will be on theirs or the NYPD. Over some Ballons ??? C'mon !!! I mean Dancing....or was it the scalpers?

I found the negetive vibe cloud.

~lol


"Over some Ballons ??? C'mon !!!"

No it's real, no joke.

Over a TON of balloons and a TON litter when there are many garbage cans perhaps no more than fifteen feet away!!!

As people, families come and go, there are Baloon-Heads passing out like mass public drunkenness with a ''negetive vibe cloud'' spreading a shit-storm all over the vicinity. They look worse than Walking Dead, well. almost.

I have no idea if you are into Nitrous or not but the welcome mat is being rolled for Furthur due to that.

Discreet pot smoking, etc., without a Ton of Mess Making is tolerated.

We need a "Don't Be A Douche" credo/ movement with this scene.
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Tom Banjo
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Re: GUYS YOU REALLY HAVE TO STOP PLAYING THE BEACON

#149271 2 years, 6 months ago
gvanman wrote:
now I feel bad. Sorry for havin' fun at your expense. I apoligize. But one thing, you said you did indeed run. And that you didn't lie. Wasn't the running out on the third incident?


--Don't feel bad.. you were misled. Perhaps give the next guy more of a chance and then pass it on

I went to Monday's show.. did not get thrown out.. pretty much danced the way I was on the other days. I got thrown out of Tuesday's & Sunday's shows. I got thrown out of 2 shows. I have not lied. I am not a liar. Many people have assumed many things of me without knowing me. I am NOT Allen Sun. I did NOT start the post about Vending, nitrous or showing up at the shows without tickets. Also, I am NOT sure how to delete my account. I E-mailed the support to see if they will respond. If any of you who really wanted me to leave, please give me the method and I will. Otherwise I will just not log on anymore. Hey, honestly, I don't want to stick around somewhere where I am not liked. I REALLY am someone who would rather be told not be around. I only feel comfortable around people who are kind.
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kevin
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Re: GUYS YOU REALLY HAVE TO STOP PLAYING THE BEACON

#149305 2 years, 6 months ago
Tom Banjo wrote:
gvanman wrote:
now I feel bad. Sorry for havin' fun at your expense. I apoligize. But one thing, you said you did indeed run. And that you didn't lie. Wasn't the running out on the third incident?


--Don't feel bad.. you were misled. Perhaps give the next guy more of a chance and then pass it on

I went to Monday's show.. did not get thrown out.. pretty much danced the way I was on the other days. I got thrown out of Tuesday's & Sunday's shows. I got thrown out of 2 shows. I have not lied. I am not a liar. Many people have assumed many things of me without knowing me. I am NOT Allen Sun. I did NOT start the post about Vending, nitrous or showing up at the shows without tickets. Also, I am NOT sure how to delete my account. I E-mailed the support to see if they will respond. If any of you who really wanted me to leave, please give me the method and I will. Otherwise I will just not log on anymore. Hey, honestly, I don't want to stick around somewhere where I am not liked. I REALLY am someone who would rather be told not be around. I only feel comfortable around people who are kind.


sir, please dont start threads imploring the band to play somewhere else (twice) because of your dissatisfaction, please dont complain when you get kicked out at least twice for "dancing", please don't attempt to rationalize your poor judgement by emphasizing the things you have not done, please dont post how you can't understand how to deactivate your account and feel the need to inform others of such, makes some folks think you're looking for unnecessary attention
Please do try to contribute positive messages to this board and be a good citizen of Planet Earth.
Thanks Banjo Man


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Last Edit: 2 years, 6 months ago by kevin. Reason: caps
ecojaded
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Re: GUYS YOU REALLY HAVE TO STOP PLAYING THE BEACON

#149317 2 years, 6 months ago
deadegad wrote:
ecojaded wrote:
Tom Banjo- I haven't read this dribble nor do I intend to insert myself in theis mess, but I really don't feel a need for anyone to leave the forum based on one thread. Although you used some stong language through out. Whadidyaexpect ?!!?

Tell more jokes and we should all be able to get a long just fine. Geezz Guys ! If they stop playing the Beacon it won't be on your call, it will be on theirs or the NYPD. Over some Ballons ??? C'mon !!! I mean Dancing....or was it the scalpers?

I found the negetive vibe cloud.

~lol


"Over some Ballons ??? C'mon !!!"

No it's real, no joke.


Over a TON of balloons and a TON litter when there are many garbage cans perhaps no more than fifteen feet away!!!

As people, families come and go, there are Baloon-Heads passing out like mass public drunkenness with a ''negetive vibe cloud'' spreading a shit-storm all over the vicinity. They look worse than Walking Dead, well. almost.

I have no idea if you are into Nitrous or not but the welcome mat is being rolled for Furthur due to that.

Discreet pot smoking, etc., without a Ton of Mess Making is tolerated.

We need a "Don't Be A Douche" credo/ movement with this scene.


Sorry my words may not have emulated my cynicism well enough. My point was that they will not stop playing a venue due to balloons...if they did they would have to recognize a problem which is easier to ignore. Or for any other reason brought up on this forum.

and boy are you barking up the wrong tree....I was in no way defending the right of people to trash the grounds of a city near a venue where you would like to think you could get the most eco logical casual support to keep the lot clean.
I got a good look of the aftermath in Boston and Wallingford where they tanks were flowing strong for a couple of hours before and after the show. I have done so much Environmental volunteer-ship in my community that I don’t need to tell you have devastating it was for me to see. I know where those balloons blow and it's not pretty to see a duck struggling for his last breath of air after one becomes lodged in their throat. Not Fucking pretty at all !

I take direct offense to the "Don't be a Douche" credo as you seemed to be responding to my post. I look forward to making my impression on you in person and then hopefully you will know that I am not one whom sees "The world as my ashtray" I agree with you that the casual attitude toward litter in our community has to change and now it seems as though I am preaching to the choir so I will sum up quickly.

I interjected because I don't like seeing people run off the forum, seems to be easy to gang up on someone who really didn't have the witt to defend themselves and didn't like the negative vibe cloud that was hanging around in that thread, basically Live and let live from now on if you guys want to peck at someone like a gang of crows over road kill be my guest, just know that this community was not founded on exclusiveness but inclusiveness.......shit maybe that is the problem.

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Said you treat other people right,
Other people probably treat you cool.
kevin
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Re: GUYS YOU REALLY HAVE TO STOP PLAYING THE BEACON

#149327 2 years, 6 months ago
Eco- I think the "dont be a douche" was directed at the masses of nitrous users immediately due south of the beacon and the litter/brain cells they left behind, it WAS an ugly scene post shows especially since they were right in the middle of broadway and you had to walk through a crowd of drunks with ballons to catch the train. sadly ironic considering the MJ laws in NYC
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GreatestStoryEverTold
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Re: GUYS YOU REALLY HAVE TO STOP PLAYING THE BEACON

#149337 2 years, 6 months ago
Tom Banjo wrote:
gvanman wrote:
now I feel bad. Sorry for havin' fun at your expense. I apoligize. But one thing, you said you did indeed run. And that you didn't lie. Wasn't the running out on the third incident?


--Don't feel bad.. you were misled. Perhaps give the next guy more of a chance and then pass it on

I went to Monday's show.. did not get thrown out.. pretty much danced the way I was on the other days. I got thrown out of Tuesday's & Sunday's shows. I got thrown out of 2 shows. I have not lied. I am not a liar. Many people have assumed many things of me without knowing me. I am NOT Allen Sun. I did NOT start the post about Vending, nitrous or showing up at the shows without tickets. Also, I am NOT sure how to delete my account. I E-mailed the support to see if they will respond. If any of you who really wanted me to leave, please give me the method and I will. Otherwise I will just not log on anymore. Hey, honestly, I don't want to stick around somewhere where I am not liked. I REALLY am someone who would rather be told not be around. I only feel comfortable around people who are kind.


you rants seem like a drug fueled rage, get a grip boy!(Tom Banjo)
Last Edit: 2 years, 6 months ago by GreatestStoryEverTold.
katie mae
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Re: GUYS YOU REALLY HAVE TO STOP PLAYING THE BEACON

#149342 2 years, 6 months ago
Sugaree1 wrote:
McGanahanSkjellyfetti wrote:
83msg1sttyme wrote:
Sugaree1 wrote:
83msg1sttyme wrote:
it s not about dancing being dangerous itsabout being obnoxious,annoying your fellow concert goers and blocking the aisles,which like it or not need to be clear in case of an emergency,like i said earlier the twilers and the "wild " dancers are welcome and they always relegated themselves to the areas that wer open so they had room to do their thing without bothering anyone else,some people think a show is an excuse to have a free for all its not its a minicommunity and we all need to get along in it,this aint rocket science.as for vending ,vending to get from show to show is okay but the people who basicly show up to just sell and take money out of the community arent welcome,just like scalpers if you dont buy from them they will go away. i weap for anyone who is paying 200 bucks for a ticket,you may think its worth it too YOU but you hurt EVERYONE else when you do it.doing the right thing isnt always easy thats why evil does such a booming buisness


I have to ask you to let go of the ticket thing. Its not the "wrong thing" to spend your hard earned money the way you see fit. Stop acting like you are a better person than me or someone else cuz you wont Pay more than face for a ticket. That has nothing to do with being good or bad, right or wrong. I "weep" for you if you judge someone on what price they pay for a concert ticket. Im sure you realize how absurd and childish that is, right? Not trying to get nasty man, but really ive already said i buy tickets however i need to if i want to go. So everytime you make these statements i take them as you personally telling me what a horrible person i am for spending my own money how i please. Does that make sense? Do you think that is ok?
if you dont like my opinions dont read them the reason you take it personal is deep down you know its wrong your just trying to justify it by repeating it over and over. i will not be censored by you or anyone else


You shouldn't have to worry about your opinions being censored. Your opinions make good sense. If you come here trying to rationalize your support of ticket scalpers you're going to be met with resistance. If the run at the Beacon doesn't point out there's a problem then I don't know what would. I think there's a consensus here that there was some back room deals being made to allow certain commerce to happen. Unfortunately Beacon management, ticketmaster, stub hug (and scalpers in general), as well as the nitrous mafia don't share the ideals of our scene, and see us as easy pickings. Just like the NYPD does.
Sad, but true, you get taken to jail if you're smoking a joint on the street, but if you want to fall down sucking nitrous on city property, being vended by a bunch of goons shouting "ice cold, get 'em here" that seems to be ok with the NYPD/city of New York. Please, don't support nitrous mafia and ticket scalpers.


I'm not trying to censor anybody, I asked politely, you declined, end of story. Relax. I can't censor or make anyone do anything. And I sure as shit do not need to justify what I do with my money to anyone. I will leave one more thought on the subject. If you consider scalping so bad, why do you not place the blame on the band? You must realize that they know this will happen if they play small places, especially in NY. They played MSG on a Friday n Saturday and there was plenty of tickets for all. Even at Radio City there may have been enough tickets. The fact is, the band understands that this is a business, they have for a long time now. They set up an 8 night run, knowing that tickets would be at a premium. One reason why TXRoads has adopted a ticketing system like at Levon's Rambles. The factis I am not placing blame on the band or anybody else. Business is supply and demand. If you think Furthur or GD should live in a special bubble outside of that, then why shouldn't the band themselves? They sure sell enough shit, so it's obvious they are not against making a buck. So until you want to place some of the blame on the band, you do not make any sense in your argument. If I enable scalping, then the band does as well to a greater degree. Do you disagree?

Just a quick comment about this scalping issue, though I know it wasn't the main intent of this thread. During the New Year's run this past December, my friend went up to the ticket/will call window area to linger around because he was trying to sell some extra tickets he had for that run (combo of online tix and mail order good luck). He was shocked when Furthur's front of house manager came out through one of the front side doors, met with a dude, exchanged money for a handful of tickets, and went back inside. The dude went back to trawling the line, looking for people who needed extra tickets and when my friend saw him and realized he was a scalper, he put two and two together. Make of it what you will. To us it appeared that someone closely tied to the Band's management was fueling the scalpers with whatever extra tickets were on hand the day of. If that was the case, and I can't think of any other reason for a Band rep to take money from an obvious scalper and then give him a handful of tickets, then the Band is complicit in this nonsense too, even if Bobby and Phil might not know about it.

The point is, the Band and all its worker bees makes a shitload of money off of all of us, and while we'd like to think there is some higher hippy-esque guiding principles in place, I think that there's a lot of stuff that happens, management enabling scalpers to name but one, that goes on that Bobby and Phil might not even ever hear about. And if they did, would they crack down on it? Would they fire the offending person(s)? This thing is getting so big that there's no way they can keep their fingers on the pulse of every aspect, that's why they have managers who run various arms of the operation. But what do we do, as a community, when we see corruption within their own organization? Is anyone in the Band going to believe what my friend saw and do anything about it? (That's a rhetorical question, BTW, I'm not expecting an answer).
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GreatestStoryEverTold
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Re: GUYS YOU REALLY HAVE TO STOP PLAYING THE BEACON

#149350 2 years, 6 months ago
Interesting about the FOH comment.
deadegad
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Re: GUYS YOU REALLY HAVE TO STOP PLAYING THE BEACON

#149354 2 years, 6 months ago
kevin wrote:
Eco- I think the "dont be a douche" was directed at the masses of nitrous users immediately due south of the beacon and the litter/brain cells they left behind, it WAS an ugly scene post shows especially since they were right in the middle of broadway and you had to walk through a crowd of drunks with ballons to catch the train. sadly ironic considering the MJ laws in NYC


Yes. The "Don't Be A Douche," or litter bug on Hippy Crack, was not meant for Ecojaded but the mess makers who give Furthur a bad rap. Sorry if I was unclear.
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illuminaughty
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Re: GUYS YOU REALLY HAVE TO STOP PLAYING THE BEACON

#149473 2 years, 6 months ago
i have never been to the beacon but from the jist of this thread, i would assume that you cant smoke no2 inside, and furthur now imploys scalpers to buy up xtraz.
seems logical.
OR, some interent people have way to much time to try and put 2 and 2 together to get 5.
there are ALOT of people in every city that are invovled in scalping, but i dont think the band has anything to do with it. BGCC, might turn a blind eye to employess making a buck on the side, but thats all just hersey. i bet you could get fired for steppin over the line, or not kickin up a percentage to the boss.
either way, i totally doubt the boys have any knowledge, or care.
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