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auggiedoggie
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Tragedy in FL

#9168 3 years, 4 months ago
I was lucky enough to be able to bring my son and step daughter to Orlando for their spring break to see the Furthur show. They busted out the best setlist I have heard yet... Due to too much TV at her mom's house, My step daughter generally much prefers iCarly or Taylor Swift to any sort of Grateful Dead music. ..So my partner and I were really excited to have the opportunity to show her some great music and some happy people just being themselves. The evening started out good, with many people going out of their way to be nice to the kids and give them glow sticks to play with. Half way through the second set, Some fellow whose enthusiastic spinning and dancing was attracting the attention of the security decided that my family needed to leave. My 6 year old step daughter was on my partner's shoulders, my 2 year old son on mine. I assume the security told the dancer he needed to cool it because there were little kid's around, so he kept getting in my partner's face (with our kid on his shoulders) demanding that we leave because security was going to kick him out. The third time it happened my partner got angry and told him to show some respect and leave us alone. At that point a few members of the crowd stepped in and told the mad dancer to back off, but unfortunately the damage was done. Our daughter felt unwelcome and even threatened because of this dude, and wanted to leave. People like that embarrass all of us dead fans. All we wanted to do was to take our family to stand in the light for a while, and even though most people show lots of love, our job of trying to enlighten our daughter has become even harder than it needs to be.
Grateful fredhead
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Re: Tragedy in FL

#9171 3 years, 4 months ago
auggiedoggie wrote:
I was lucky enough to be able to bring my son and step daughter to Orlando for their spring break to see the Furthur show. They busted out the best setlist I have heard yet... Due to too much TV at her mom's house, My step daughter generally much prefers iCarly or Taylor Swift to any sort of Grateful Dead music. ..So my partner and I were really excited to have the opportunity to show her some great music and some happy people just being themselves. The evening started out good, with many people going out of their way to be nice to the kids and give them glow sticks to play with. Half way through the second set, Some fellow whose enthusiastic spinning and dancing was attracting the attention of the security decided that my family needed to leave. My 6 year old step daughter was on my partner's shoulders, my 2 year old son on mine. I assume the security told the dancer he needed to cool it because there were little kid's around, so he kept getting in my partner's face (with our kid on his shoulders) demanding that we leave because security was going to kick him out. The third time it happened my partner got angry and told him to show some respect and leave us alone. At that point a few members of the crowd stepped in and told the mad dancer to back off, but unfortunately the damage was done. Our daughter felt unwelcome and even threatened because of this dude, and wanted to leave. People like that embarrass all of us dead fans. All we wanted to do was to take our family to stand in the light for a while, and even though most people show lots of love, our job of trying to enlighten our daughter has become even harder than it needs to be.



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funky420
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Re: Tragedy in FL

#9173 3 years, 4 months ago
That is absolutely terrible. As a father of two I find this very disturbing I've been to many shows and seen many children at shows I think its beautiful, they are the next generation. My oldest son loves the grateful dead and dead related music and has been bugging me to take him to a show which I plan on doing this year. Although I thankfully have never witnessed any incedents like you describe now I find myself wondering...shoul I? I'm sorry for your experience but more so for your step daughter who's memory will be tarnished because of some jerk. Hopefully somday you can get her back to a show and convince her we're not all bad.
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Steveo
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Re: Tragedy in FL

#9175 3 years, 4 months ago
Wow Im so sorry to hear you had this trouble

My first impression of this is that either

1) the wild dancer was a danger to your child and should have rwealized this m then out of kindnerss should have either toned it down or moved to a larger area for him to dance.

OR

2) The Security overreacted and the dancer wasnt a danger at all



In either case it was a bad occurence, but at least no one got HURT, except for some feelings that were hurt.

I dont know what to advise you, having no kids of my own, but I do LOVE kids. Just keep loving your child and perhaps she will understand that while the band Further was good, the one dancer presented an unusual problem ( Im kinda surprised he was so mean) and that this is not typical of Further fans!
Broomfield Neil
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Re: Tragedy in FL

#9176 3 years, 4 months ago
Tragedy? Maybe unfortunate would be a better word. I understand and respect parents wanting to bring their kids to shows but in my opinion a Furthur show is no place to bring a 2 and a 6 year old. Sorry the wook ruined your bonding time!
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movable parts
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Re: Tragedy in FL

#9177 3 years, 4 months ago
no doubt that it was an unpleasant experience but tragedy>>>a bit overstated.
Cornjulio
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Re: Tragedy in FL

#9178 3 years, 4 months ago
Geez...the thread title is a little misleading.

I too have taken my kid to shows, and have dealt with these wooks. First thing I always do when I take my kid to the shoe, is get to know the Security/ushers of my section and make small talk.

At SCI at the Beacon who my son used to love, before icarly and Katy Perry stole his heart, we had first row of the Center Loge on the isle. I of course protect the isle, when some spinster decides he's going dance, twirl, and puff his chillin with as much flair as possible.

Three times I politely asked if he would stop blowing massive plumes of pot smoke in front of my kid. Just step back a couple of rows. After the third request I got two violent spins into me, which were then followed by a huge plume of smoke blown in me and my kids direction.

Now my dander is up. So I ask him if he has a ticket for the section. "yes". Really let me see it. Sure enough 5 rows behind me. I grab the ticket, rip it to shreds, throw it over the balcony. I told him he fucked with the wrong guy, grabbed him by his shirt, physically escorted him up the isles and out the doors the lobby and inform the security that this guy had no ticket for this area and was harassing me and my kid. He starts screaming "you took my ticket." I replied in front of the security person, "maybe we should go through your pockets and see if it's there?"

I walked back into the show, and never saw him again. Problem solved.

So my strong suggestion at any reserved show, is make the security know you're there with your kid. I will always ask the folks around me before the show starts to be discreet in their ways. For the most part, it works wonders. But sometimes, ya gotta do what ya gotta do.
sandflea
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Re: Tragedy in FL

#9183 3 years, 4 months ago
Good one! I'll definitely remember your approach.

No one likes to have to be subjected to that - especially when you have your kids around. That guy was a bully, and you showed him! Well done sir!
pittsburghgary
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Re: Tragedy in FL

#9186 3 years, 4 months ago
these show are not for kids. Unless they are 21 years old.
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auggiedoggie
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Re: Tragedy in FL

#9189 3 years, 4 months ago
sorry.. I guess I should have chosen a different word but to me it is a tragedy to try to show a child that there is something more real our there than the disney/pop scene and wind up with a sour experience instead. I have been to dead shows where bikers have literally formed a human wall around the kids before.. most people understand what we are trying to do and show a lot of respect, its just sad to see this happening in a place where all walks are supposedly respected.
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