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83msg1sttyme
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Re: Furthur needs a new FOH guy.

#8360 3 years ago
this one goes to 11
If i told ya all that went down,it would burn off both your ears
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GreatestStoryEverTold
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Re: Furthur needs a new FOH guy.

#8381 3 years ago
Cornjulio wrote:
I tend to be the typical audiophile sound snob. I am convinced that part of the problem are the new arrays that everyone seems to be using.

What they do accomplish pretty darn well is get decent sound all over the arenas. Problem is, it comes with mp3 type sound everywhere. What they don't do well is bring the ooomph to the very front of the hall. Fact is, the sound up front is absolutely crucial to bringing the crowd into the gig. It's the site of the folks rocking up front that pulls everyone in, and the sound up front is terribly thin. Three speakers on the side of the stage, and minis at the very front are not bringing that experience home. Especially with a band that doesn't really play that loud with their own gear.

This reminds me of the switch from Healy to Cutler, where the sound to a noticeable turn for the worse. From an active participant focused on the experience with the crowd, a full stereo production, to the FM mono type set it and forget it approach.

I won't fault him for the Best Buy (Those JBL's blow1 For such a sound treated room it should sound way better. Also for Radio City experiences where they were using house gear for the arrays, but even in those scenarios, work the room and add what you need to for the front of the Orchestra.

Get more speakers at the bottom of the arrays that are hung directed to the front center of the floor. Add more speakers on the side of the stage on top of the ones already there, and for the bigger arenas, hang a couple of subs in the air too.

I agree that Mr. Featherstone appears to not give a rats ass. Doesn't ever seem to take a stroll around to check the sound. Doesn't care that folks want it louder. Doesn't seem interested in boosting Chimenti's organ on a solo when you can't hear it.

Finally it's not the Meyer arrays per se. If you are in that spot right by the speakers it sounds good. It's just the cookie cutter approach and a sound team that doesn't seem very interested in making sure the room is covered and adjusted. Why does it take almost to the end of the first set for it to be competent? The world knows and empty cold venue is going to be totally different than one full of people and warm. I too don't really get it.

Can they not patch things up with Healy? Has that ship sailed?

In the memory of Bear, give us some love here!


So true. Its terrible because meyers can actually crank and sound amazing. Ever been to Sullivan Hall in NYC? They have meyer there and my gosh do these babbies crank. I hate to say it but 1st set Sat night at RCMH JK was way to quiet. I mean come on give us a little something.
ScarletFire
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Re: Furthur needs a new FOH guy.

#8437 3 years ago
Ya having my ears in ESP detection mode seems to work
lookatitright
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Re: Furthur needs a new FOH guy.

#8519 3 years ago
Agree wholeheartedly regarding the foh sound (the buried thousand mile away "matrix" vocals of the official releases is another question--how can a 2011 "board" sound worse than a 71, 85???). The FOH is mixed without warmth and without much modification during the show. Bob is also sinfully low.

How is this the best that can be done in 2011--the band is far outshining its sound, which is a shame. Same with the awful official hollow sounding sbd releases. Something much better should be done to document what these guys are doing. Just listen to a TD or Ratdog official release--night and day.
drpsilocybo
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Re: Furthur needs a new FOH guy.

#8525 3 years ago
I feel like the sound is often lacking in warmth, and clarity
I hope that they address the problem before summer tour
Okie
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Re: Furthur needs a new FOH guy.

#8528 3 years ago
I usually hang out around the soundboard off and on at shows and of the Furthur shows that I have seen I have observed their sound guy doing not much at all during the show. Kind of like a "set it and forget it" type of thing. I thought the sound in St. Louis last Fall was very lackluster and needed major adjustments at certain periods of time all to no avail. I also wonder why their guy doesn't make adjustments during the performances. It really is strange. Hopefully they will take this criticism to heart and do whatever it takes to make the sound as good as the band itself because they really are tearin' it up these days.

Listenin' to the secret, searchin' for THE SOUND.
"In the land of the dark, the ship of the sun is driven by the Grateful Dead"
lookatitright
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Re: Furthur needs a new FOH guy.

#8538 3 years ago
The adjustments, or lack thereof, really differentiate Featherstone from the Healey years. Here's hoping he becomes more active and walks around once in awhile-and turns Bob's vocals up to where they should/used to be.
FickleHillRoad
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Re: Furthur needs a new FOH guy.

#8591 3 years ago
I'm glad to see this discussion. I was at the Charleston show 4/2 and I also have to say that out of 100+ GD/JGB/Furthur shows, this was by far the absolute worst sound I have ever heard. I actually considered taking my mother to finally see a show and thankfully decided not too. It would have sucked for her. I was 4 rows off the floor on JK's side about ten rows back from the stage. First off, it was painfully too loud. My ears were fatigued by the second song. The vocals were so horribly muddled. My wife, who is not a head, commented that she couldn't make out any of the words. My ears were still ringing the next day. Could also barely hear Bob's guitar. Such a shame. I always speak with pride about how the GD had the most amazing, full, sound without EVER being too loud. What I experienced 4/2 was disappointing. I hope these sentiments get through to the band and it gets worked out right. Hate to sound like a whiner, but its 2011 and there is no excuse for miserable sound.

By the way, the show and this band are awesome, can't wait to go again.
jbyerly
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Re: Furthur needs a new FOH guy.

#8594 3 years ago
At the New Hampshire last year I would agree 100%. I was in sec 112, 5 up from the floor at N Charleston. the Line arrays were pointed my direction and the sound was fantastic. Most of what I'm hearing has Phil's bass no where to be found. I actually heard him Saturday night for the first part of the first set and then he turned down. I have not heard enough board cd's to make a judgement but I have SC & Atlanta coming so I will see

ps as I read the posts. I agree that they started out very loud which I like every now and again but they seemed to tame that as the night went on

I do hope with the boys listen and put some pressure on the FOH mixer to be more attentive.
Philzone Phan
Last Edit: 3 years ago by jbyerly.
FickleHillRoad
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Re: Furthur needs a new FOH guy.

#8601 3 years ago
I was just to your left in sec 110. I'm curious, Did you find the vocals too loud and distorted?
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