Of course we should all try to show a little more sensitivity toward this kid and his family. We can start by not speculating to much about what we don't know (ie this kid's mental state, his drug use habits, his father's parental abilities, etc etc).

That being said there's just something not right, and kinda creepy, about dedicating a song or whatever to his memory. Weird considering the circumstances.

Fare Ye Well, Brother.

amigo del diablo wrote:


"Maybe we could all lay off this poor guy a bit for the time being and just wish him home and healing vibes for his family"????

The kid is DEAD. There will be no home and no healing. Not for him, not for his family and not for the scene.

It's hard not to judge the kid for his actions, but it's just such a shocking senseless death that these type of reactions should be expected. I can't imagine what his parents and family are dealing with now.

Lynx wrote:


Agreed.

I think a shout out for this lost soul is not a good idea.

RIP

don't judge the kid, people like him need guidance more than judgment

rest in peace joe

amigo del diablo wrote:


Fair enough but let's not be too naive here. I mean come on, this shit has been happening for years at shows. People don't dive through windows or jump off of balconies at Dead related concerts because they are drunk, depressed, mentally ill, or horsing around. They do it because they are high and they think they can fly. People can beat around the bush all they want but I seriously doubt the kid went to a concert to intentionally kill himself. He took some bad shit, and ran and dove head first through a window. It's tragic yes, but it happens. There are so many scum bag fuckers that go see these shows now, especially since Furthur has started playing. People trashing up the scene, punk ass lot rats selling their fucking shit, the nitrous dealers, stupid youngsters who have no clue and are just there to get fucked up, party and deal drugs. We all saw the exact same shit going on back in the days of the GD and it sucks that this type of shit is emerging again. There are two types of Deadheads. Those that go for the music and those that go for and live off of 'the scene" and as far as I am concerned the latter of the two are the ones that fuck everything up for everyone else. I was embarrassed leaving the lot in Atlanta last year everyone trashed that place so bad and no one seemed to care. If shit like this keeps happening I wouldn't expect Furthur to be around too much longer because nobody is going to want them or us around. This kind of shit fucks it up for everybody.

Thank you for your honesty Okie.

However, I would like to point out to you, if you are not part of the solution, then you are part of the problem.

Good stuff Okie

Jerry, Brent, Pigpen all died because of drug addiction, and yet we honor them all the time (Especially Jerry). Should we not honor them because of their selfishness? This kid made one mistake (which may may not have been drug related at all), whereas Jerry, Brent, Pigpen, Janis (Bird Song) made a LIFETIME of "selfish" decisions by allowing drugs and alcohol to ruin their lives and hurt so many folks around them. I'm not saying they shouldn't be honored--they definitely should be. And so should this young man.
The Grateful Dead? the name itself comes from an Egyptian folk tale about helping a dead lost soul. The protagonist feeds this dead soul even though the dead cannot retain food. Then the protagonist gives the soul drink, even though the dead cannot retain drink.
It's called "signposts to a new space" for a reason.

and on a less metaphysical level, He's Gone has been dedicated to countless "lost soul" people, like 23 year old Len Bias who died 1 week after being recruited by the Boston Celtics.

Some thoughts to ponder...

Kind thoughts spiritfingers, thank you for the kind thoughts...