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scar1et_f1re
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Billy Kreutzmanns' comment about furthur

#68600 2 years, 9 months ago
To me furthur sounded very fresh last night, definitely not the same old stuff. Very jazzy and nice improvisations.

During the show I remembered Billy's comment that furthur was just playing the same old stuff, which IMO couldn't be farther from the truth.

I think Billy needs to reconsider that comment - or update it. I don't know how anyone listening to last nights show (or most current shows) can say furthur is not fresh and innovative. Sure, they play lots of classics, and some jams will always stay the same. Why? We the heads love them and they work.

And I love everything about Billy. But his comment did leave a bad taste in my mouth.

Maybe it's like that line in Deal, Billy knows a little something I won't ever know???? All I know is that to a longtime fan, but an outsider, his comments were surprising.

I believe some of Billy's quote may be out of context, but this was the abridged version of his quote: www.jambands.com/news/2010/12/02/kreutzm...es-a-stab-at-furthur

Grateful Dead drummer Bill Kreutzmann—who’s currently touring with his band 7 Walkers—shared his thoughts on Furthur in a story by The Press Republican that was released today.

“I haven’t really got much interest in them. They sound just like the other bands out there doing it. What do you call those bands that copy other bands—” Kreutzmann said. “Anyways, I don’t feel they’re doing anything really new with their music.”

Kreutzmann went on to say, “The saddest thing is that they (Furthur) hired a guitar player that’s not Warren Haynes. It’s too bad. They should have hired a great solo guitar player.”

The drummer last made his rounds with former GD bandmates Bob Weir and Phil Lesh—and guitarist Warren Haynes—in 2009 as The Dead. Furthur, which consists of Lesh and Weir, plus newcomers John Kadlecik (Dark Star Orchestra) and drummer Joe Russo (Benevento/Russo Duo), formed and began touring that same year.

7 Walkers will next play on December 9 at the Mohegan Sun Casino in Uncasville, CT, while Furthur will ring in the New Year at the Bill Graham Civic Auditorium in San Francisco.
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ShakedownSteve
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Re: Billy Kreutzmanns' comment about furthur

#68606 2 years, 9 months ago
Bill Kreutzmann is jealous. Case closed.
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FurthurFlower67
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Re: Billy Kreutzmanns' comment about furthur

#68611 2 years, 9 months ago
When I first read this when it came out my opinion on Billy changed for the worse just a little bit tho. He is still Billy Kreutzmann founding drummer of the Grateful Dead, but those comments did hurt me

I actually commented on the story back in December... here is my quote lol....

"I cant believe this. I seen Furthur 6 times just this year and I seen the Rhythm Devils this year once. I had to travel for all shows. They sucked compaired to Furthur. The Rhythm Devils sound like one of those “COPY BANDS”. But Furthur takes it FURTHUR! Love the dead but man Billy thats harsh! I woudnt go out of my way again to see the Rhythm devils. But when it comes to furthur show me the way to the train station!!"
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alilfurther
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Re: Billy Kreutzmanns' comment about furthur

#68614 2 years, 9 months ago
biill used to think you were a hip dude who better to do jerrys part than john he is doing an amazing job warren was great to but to be so negative what the??? Further is amazing and you wuld be doing yourself a fav or to play with the guys once in awhile i hope you read this once band mates freinds anfd now you bad mouth them this way not cool in my opinion , for the record I wont be frequenting your shows anymore for awhile either what a dis !!! shame on you !!!what would jerry say??? I am happy estatic to see phil and bobby together again as for you and mikey go on and be play haters we love them and so should you .. sorry this upsets me soo much I made a milliion typos well I am leaving them for effect ..
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Gr8fulauditors
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Re: Billy Kreutzmanns' comment about furthur

#68616 2 years, 9 months ago
Sorry he was not asked,but RUSSO is a BEAST!!!!
At least I'm still enjoying the ride !!!!!
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strangerinboulder
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Re: Billy Kreutzmanns' comment about furthur

#68702 2 years, 9 months ago
He's not called the octopus for nothing. No disrespect to Billy + Mickey, but if the Dead had Russo back then, they would have not needed two drummers.
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Re: Billy Kreutzmanns' comment about furthur

#68715 2 years, 9 months ago
oh come the fuk on. you really really think russo compares to mickey and billy?
jesus christ, the got the best they could with the least amount of money.
they would have prefered jay lane and rightly so, hes alot better,
but jay went with primus where he gets the respect he deserves(respect=money)
its the bob and phil show(though jeff is def. making a name for himself)
russo still plays drums for gene ween when he does solo shows, so im guesin furthur dont pay all that well.
not dissin russo, but hes a hired gun, and when bill and mickey feel like playin with phil and bob he be back
to the duo.
btw, billy did take back what he said, or said he felt bad about putting it that way or sumthing.
furthur with billy and mickey back on drums would be the shiznit.
no diss to russo. hes a good drummer. but compared to billy or mickey? no comparison.
billy and mickey are in the rock and roll hall of fame, russo is uhhh...a good hired gun.
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Re: Billy Kreutzmanns' comment about furthur

#68731 2 years, 9 months ago
illuminaughty wrote:

no diss to russo. hes a good drummer. but compared to billy or mickey? no comparison.
billy and mickey are in the rock and roll hall of fame, russo is uhhh...a good hired gun.


No offense, but you obviously don't know much about drumming do you? That's fine, but if you ask talented drummers what they think of Russo vs. Bill or Mickey, there really is no comparison. Alone, neither could pull off the technical style of Russo. That said, Bill & Mickey are unique in their own way, but it took both of them to make the GD 'really' interesting. All 3 are great, all 3 are different. As a life long drummer, it's great to hear someone as talented as Russo playing Dead. Billy and Mickey are rather basic players (Rhythm Devils aside), but through years of playing together, they were able to achieve a sound that is very difficult for one drummer to pull off. For me, Russo (not Lane) is the most convincing and exciting that I've heard in any post GD band.
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Re: Billy Kreutzmanns' comment about furthur

#68735 2 years, 9 months ago
it's his comment let him have it...the fact that you are still bumming out about it is quite odd, just because you don't share the same view as him doesn't mean he needs to retract or change anything he says...he doesn't care what you think
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MWoods
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Re: Billy Kreutzmanns' comment about furthur

#68737 2 years, 9 months ago
ShakedownSteve wrote:
Bill Kreutzmann is jealous. Case closed.

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