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irishqueenie
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Posts:551
let there be songs to fill the air!!!

Re: NYPD

#6713 3 years ago
wow - all i will say about a brand new poster who lectures on how to behave around the nyc area in relation to drinking in public-LAME!
i didn't get tickets to any of the nyc shows after all the crap at msg on the last further tour-they really need to spend much less time trying to bust people up to 3 blocks from the venue- hang by the port authority and tell me you don't see anyone drinking!
selective profilin' - consider these things when choosing your shows.
and Bloomberg can suck it!
Jonpatrick
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Posts:9

Re: NYPD

#6732 3 years ago
So I quess if a poster has lets say, 34 posts, then when they pontificate about drinking in public it is no longer lame? Wow I did not know that was the treashold?

Really now is it all that necessary to drink in public in front of a NYC iconic place like Radio City. Has society degenerated to the point that we need our alcohol on the streets of the city. Its incredibly classless and guess what, illegal. You could not be anymore incorrect regarding policing around such places as the port authority, penn station etc, etc. NYPD is in full force at these locations, especially post 9/11, and believe me the same quality of life infractions are enforced there as they are in front of Radio City or other venues. I worked with these guys for years and they will be the first one to get in front of you or anyone else for that matter, when the nut goes off with the automatic weapon, or the terrorist strikes at one of these hubs. They were there 9/11, and they will be there tomorrow if it happens again. So quit your bitching about the cops in NYC, they are made up of decent hard working family men and women who daily put their lives on the line for all citizens of the city.
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BlueLightRain
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Posts:26

Re: NYPD

#6736 3 years ago
If you drink on the streets in NYC you will get busted for it. They aren't making an exception for you personally, or Deadheads in general. Obviously they know that when the boys are in town there will be easy targets around and can make a dime or two busting freaks. I don't understand the need to drink a beer in front of the venue... can't you go to a bar? There are plenty in the area. I know well enough to keep things discreet in NYC and I never get hassled. You can't really complain about getting nailed for breaking two laws when you make it so easy for them to nail you! If you don't want to get stung, don't go around poking beehives with sticks.
MushroomMan
Platinum Boarder
Posts:8086

Re: NYPD

#6737 3 years ago
Yea with my post I didnt mean any disrespect towards cops or anything......I just meant the laws are still wrong, obviously the NYPD is just doing there job. I always keep things discreet and never get hassled either, but I don't drink alcohol at all, just smoke weed (which I want to stop smoking and only eat n vaporize in the near future) and eat my good ol' mushies.....and then I'll do some other natural stuff but only if I know right where it came or was extracted from......
Wheelman
Gold Boarder
Posts:1193

Re: NYPD

#6738 3 years ago
LOOK! The Police (took an oath) to uphold the law...
they dont write the laws...your supposed representatives do..
TAKE IT UP WITH THEM!
the average flatfoot doesnt have an option as to what laws they decide to enforce, & which ones they decide not to.
Im sure their supervisors were close by, monitoring their conduct...
Dont bash a guy who's just doing his job...
leave the shit back in your rooms...
be safe/be smart...
NY State is going through some tough financial times, & are looking to create revenue anywhere they can...
ticketing & fine quota's are way up...
why increase your risk of prosecution in such an environment?

I FUKIN' HATE THE LAWS TOO...(but I dont tempt fate) by going to an area so over flowing with a potential to incarcerate me...

--> BE SMART...
(“I don’t suffer from insanity; I enjoy every minute of it.” )
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irishqueenie
Senior Boarder
Posts:551
let there be songs to fill the air!!!

Re: NYPD

#6746 3 years ago
my point was your first post was a friggin lecture! still lame!
i lived in nyc and have seen alot- also as a criminal justice student i can tell you that you as a police officer do not have to arrest for every infraction you see- very discretionary - and now your bringing 9/11 into busting someone for a beer or a jay?! common!?
i have family on the job- so don't even go there- there is plenty to keep the cops in nyc busy without trying to entrap people or pad the local economy with bogus petty issues!
do i think drinking a beer in that area is stupid? yes- but going to jail or being detained for hours on a ticket and missing the show- wow in this economy that will keep people comming back! lol
Brooklyn Jimmy
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Posts:168

Re: NYPD

#6748 3 years ago
Yeah, but you did try to play the "Furthurer than thou" card, which is very lame, and made any intelligent argument you were trying to make completely inconsequential. You do know this board is only a few weeks old right?
Jonpatrick
Fresh Boarder
Posts:9

Re: NYPD

#6762 3 years ago
irishqueenie wrote:
my point was your first post was a friggin lecture! still lame!
i lived in nyc and have seen alot- also as a criminal justice student i can tell you that you as a police officer do not have to arrest for every infraction you see- very discretionary - and now your bringing 9/11 into busting someone for a beer or a jay?! common!?
i have family on the job- so don't even go there- there is plenty to keep the cops in nyc busy without trying to entrap people or pad the local economy with bogus petty issues!
do i think drinking a beer in that area is stupid? yes- but going to jail or being detained for hours on a ticket and missing the show- wow in this economy that will keep people comming back! lol


I can care less about where you think one can and cannot go when it comes to family on the job. Could not be anymore irrelevant considering your talking to someone who was actually on the job in law enforcement in NYC for over 25 years. The reference to 9/11 is that the same officers you complain about were there to protect/save people like yourself and will do it again tomorrow for you when the next incident occurs. Consider that next time you bitch about them enforcing the actual laws of New York State, they put themselves out there every SINGLE DAY.
So your day sitting at a desk in a criminal justice class reallly gives you insight what a police officer faces daily? What a ridiculously, absurd analogy. As far as discretion when it comes to arrests, yes it does exist,, but those officers were instructed to enforce all crimes in and around RCMH. Trust me there is no discretion allowed in this situation. It’s a image thing that the mayor’s office and 1 Police Plaza want to maintain. Do you really think the management of Radio City wants people drinking and smoking weed in front of their venue located in the heart of Manhattan. How about the Mayor’s office, or 1 P.P. ? Wake up, how about we all loitered, drank and smoke weed in front of your business, or your home? Is that acceptable? Maybe in front of your criminal justice class where you are gleaming such insight on what a NYPD officer’s role and responsibilities are.
The arrests that were made on those breaking the laws in front of RCMH only enhances the average citizen’s belief that the venue is a safe place to visit. The next attraction will sell as many, if not more, tickets to those citizens who wish to attend these venues without being subject to people like you who feel the world revolves them and they can drink and smoke where they please. I’m glad those people got tossed, I’m not interested in being subject to your second hand smoke or your drunken antics. Furthur could announce a 10 day run there next week and the tickets will sell as briskly, if not faster (based on how well they are playing) then last weeks. The arrests of those breaking the law will in no way whatsoever, as you put it, effect ticket sales.
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MushroomMan
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Posts:8086

Re: NYPD

#6765 3 years ago
Well in an interview Bob Weir said himself when asked about the smell of all the smoke at shows bothering him and he said "no not at all, if it did I think I'd be in the wrong line of work" so if your expecting not to smell any pot at a show or if it bothers you, perhaps your going to the wrong kind of shows.....just busting your ass with that last comment I agree with most everything your saying and respect cops 100% but ganja is, always has been and will be a part of the show. Along with crazy people tripping out having fun!

People just gotta learn to keep it down
irishqueenie
Senior Boarder
Posts:551
let there be songs to fill the air!!!

Re: NYPD

#6769 3 years ago
Funky420 - sorry that your post got all yuk with the soapbox preacher!
funny how someone can assume all kinds of crap- i go to school at nite and teach during the day- i wasn't drinking or smoking in public so no drunkin' antics here - i work with high risk youth and there is always more than one way to handle a situation- obviously some people don't agree- don't really care- and my god father has been on the job almost 40 years- my cousin 22 years i respect what they do- we have had many debates on law enforcement- esp since i started in the cj program- and if you think they will always come back no matter how bad the scene- just ask Nassau !!!
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