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jaredlang
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Re: Band Gripes

#227166 1 year, 3 months ago
kevin wrote:
She was a big part of the experience for many years as was Dan Healy

Cheers to Dan (rip) and Candace!!!


Is Dan Healy dead?
Standing on the moon with nothing left to do
A lovely view of heaven but I'd rather be with you
RowTimmy
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Re: Band Gripes

#227170 1 year, 3 months ago
I have NO Gripes with the band. Not everybody is going to like everything everybody in the band does. After 80 or so shows ive learned that if i wasnt thrilled with any aspect wait and it will be different the next show. These guys could stop altogether.

Im just grateful there are shows.
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AcidTestGraduate
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Posts:1497

Re: Band Gripes

#227175 1 year, 3 months ago
ZenoMarx wrote:
I prefer the stripped down, no light show tours. Throw up a giant tie-dye backdrop with basic stage lights (static, if you please), and I'm good to go. Let me see the band. I'm there to watch and listen to them. I don't want any of the other pomp & circumstance. And if it saves me even a quarter on the ticket price, it's two bits well spent.

Better sound. Their sound crew is entirely mediocre. I don't have any answers, but someone must.

Too many songs in some of the setlists. More improvisation, please.

Too much classic rock juke boxing. Save your contemporary covers for rehearsals (or for never). If it resembles anything like a post-1979 setlist, please reconsider it. I don't even want to listen to recordings of that filler, so I surely don't want to spend all that time and money to see it live. (though, they have been better about it)

Bob's atrocious tonality. Someone play him a SBD so he can hear how awful he sounds.

Turn up and EQ JohnK. I'd like to hear him rip holes in the stratosphere and pierce the sky. If he lacks that aggressive gear, turn up the volume and fool us.


I agree with you on the lightng. Who really needs it? As far as the wanting to be able to see them up close and bathed in saturated colours moving about, I don't need to. As long as it's loud enough to my liking and the stage is lit, then who cares? I can be up in the rafters as long as there's adequate room to flail about. That's just me.

The Grateful Dead hired one of the best (if not the best) sound companies out there, Ultra Sound out of Novato. Who Furthur uses I don't know. You're the first person I've seen take issue with the sound quality, but you've also shown yourself to be quite the audiophile.

Re: the jukebox thing. Fool in the Rain and Train in Vain come to mind. Why bother? When I want to hear these songs (if ever) then I'll listen to the originals. Btw, major Zep and Clash fan. I like the Beatles and Dylan songs, always have, although thank you for straying from Desolation Row! Love they do Any Road. How about more Dylan/Hunter? Silvio comes to mind!
ZenoMarx
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PLEASE be quiet when the band is playing. PLEASE.

Re: Band Gripes

#227183 1 year, 3 months ago
jaredlang wrote:
Is Dan Healy dead?
No, he is not. He proved to be a nuisance by the end of his GD run, so I doubt he would be an option. If he could swear to not screw with Bob, I'd love for him to come teach this crew a thing or two about a thing or two.
You aren't interesting or clever when you write or speak in the lyrics of others. Rather, what are YOUR words?

It's dead and over when close enough is good enough.
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lightchaser
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Re: Band Gripes

#227186 1 year, 3 months ago
I can do without the elaborate lighting as well since it would make the $45 ticket cost $65; but I do feel the sound could be better or at least loud enough to drown out the incessant chatter that always seems to be around me. Us old-timers remember when concerts were so loud you couldn't hear yourself think; and that was a good thing! Would like for JK and JC to be more prominent in the mix.
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AcidTestGraduate
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Re: Band Gripes

#227188 1 year, 3 months ago
RowTimmy wrote:
I have NO Gripes with the band. Not everybody is going to like everything everybody in the band does. After 80 or so shows ive learned that if i wasnt thrilled with any aspect wait and it will be different the next show. These guys could stop altogether.

Im just grateful there are shows.



good for you Timmy
Last Edit: 1 year, 3 months ago by AcidTestGraduate.
Esaus Brother is my Son
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Posts:61

Re: Band Gripes

#227190 1 year, 3 months ago
Preston Hoffman is Furthur's lighting director. His brother Paul is Widespread Panic's lighting director.
It's all about how much of a budget they have to work with...in which case WSP WON this past NYE.


Preston


Paul
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ZenoMarx
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Posts:963
PLEASE be quiet when the band is playing. PLEASE.

Re: Band Gripes

#227192 1 year, 3 months ago
AcidTestGraduate wrote:
I agree with you on the lightng. Who really needs it?
For me, the music is the entire event. I acknowledge many people want it to be more than a concert. For my experience, everything else besides the music is a distraction and is unnecessary.

It's a complicated issue, though. Religions have historically stroked all the senses. Frankincense, gold and art and the opulent, bread & wine, song, and community. The spectacle isn't new. I have a true appreciation for the peripherals, but in the end, that's all they are: peripherals. They aren't necessary for fulfillment.
You aren't interesting or clever when you write or speak in the lyrics of others. Rather, what are YOUR words?

It's dead and over when close enough is good enough.
Last Edit: 1 year, 3 months ago by ZenoMarx.
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stricken
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Posts:1017

Re: Band Gripes

#227207 1 year, 3 months ago
MissinJerry wrote:
I just dont get it, who runs the show anyways...

JeffC, often his back is to the audience... whats up with that? Rearrange you dang keyboards so that you are either facing THE PEOPLE that are paying your bills (the audience) or at least the band... but for the paying customers to see your back is just wrong!

JeffP, keep yer dang hands out of your pockets! when does someone put their hands in their pockets? WHEN THEY ARE BORED... You bored when you are up there on the stage?

Phil/Bob, whats up with your lighting person?
There is no feeling to the lights, seems like he/she either doesnt know the music, doesnt care, or just has no groove or really isnt a lighting person...
Remember the old days? The lights were a big part of the show, they were made for the music...
NEVER did one say, "its just a dude hitting the chase button every now and then"
I would NEVER tell someone to go see a Phish show and be subjected to their nursery rhymes.
BUT if they were to go, they would be blown away!
Best dang sounding nursery rhymes your ears will ever hear.. and an AMAZING light show to boot... WOW!
It wouldn't cost the Bob/Phil ANY more to have a real lighting person that did the lights, like a musician playing their instrument.
FURTHUR DESERVES A BETTER LIGHT SHOW!



Try looking into a 1000 watt light bulb and then you will see plenty of colors. Maybe the problem lies in your expectations?
Really your first post ever is full of complaints??? Is there anything about furthur that you like????????????????????????????????
stricken
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Re: Band Gripes

#227208 1 year, 3 months ago
I have no gripes i like the fact that i dont have to pay a extra 20.00 for lighting and as for the volume level well it may be hard for you to realize that the band is looking out for your ears as to not damage them. After all if you cant hear them there would be no real reason to see them.
Dire Wolf
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Posts:1432
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Re: Band Gripes

#227210 1 year, 3 months ago
ZenoMarx wrote:
AcidTestGraduate wrote:
I agree with you on the lightng. Who really needs it?
For me, the music is the entire event. I acknowledge many people want it to be more than a concert. For my experience, everything else besides the music is a distraction and is unnecessary.

It's a complicated issue, though. Religions have historically stroked all the senses. Frankincense, gold and art and the opulent, bread & wine, song, and community. The spectacle isn't new. I have a true appreciation for the peripherals, but in the end, that's all they are: peripherals. They aren't necessary for fulfillment.


The music is the entire event! But not every show and tour has to be a stripped down peripherals show so as to show everyone the "true" path to fulfillment by not diluting the sacramental rights. My favorite lighting so far has been the pollack backdrop they had on the west coast and small portion of the east coast. Why oh why the got rid of the Mandalas ill have no idea, probably because bob hates tie-dye I would like for one thing to see a little more interesting lighting sometimes, i mean why not? If you go to so many shows why not? I've been to over a 100 Furthur at this point all over the country and I would not mind a little eye candy when I see the next run of shows but if its not there it won't break my heart. But god if people are too distracted and detracted by lights at a concert then how would you have faired at an acid test?
Last Edit: 1 year, 3 months ago by Dire Wolf. Reason: Tomfoolery again
AcidTestGraduate
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Posts:1497

Re: Band Gripes

#227214 1 year, 3 months ago
Dire Wolf wrote:
ZenoMarx wrote:
AcidTestGraduate wrote:
I agree with you on the lightng. Who really needs it?
For me, the music is the entire event. I acknowledge many people want it to be more than a concert. For my experience, everything else besides the music is a distraction and is unnecessary.

It's a complicated issue, though. Religions have historically stroked all the senses. Frankincense, gold and art and the opulent, bread & wine, song, and community. The spectacle isn't new. I have a true appreciation for the peripherals, but in the end, that's all they are: peripherals. They aren't necessary for fulfillment.


The music is the entire event! But not every show and tour has to be a stripped down peripherals show so as to show everyone the "true" path to fulfillment by not diluting the sacramental rights. My favorite lighting so far has been the pollack backdrop they had on the west coast and small portion of the east coast. Why oh why the got rid of the Mandalas ill have no idea, probably because bob hates tie-dye I would like for one thing to see a little more interesting lighting sometimes, i mean why not? If you go to so many shows why not? I've been to over a 100 Furthur at this point all over the country and I would not mind a little eye candy when I see the next run of shows but if its not there it won't break my heart. But god if people are too distracted and detracted by lights at a concert then how would you have faired at an acid test?

It's not that anyone doesn't like the pretty colours and eye candy, it's just that in the grand scheme it's but a small fraction
of the overall experience.
You can't compare today's lighting with what was used at the acid tests, if that's what you were referring to
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