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AcidTestGraduate
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Re: One final thought on some people here

#226791 1 year, 9 months ago
Still Takin it Weirder wrote:
"Misfit Power! We are misfits who play for misfits!" -- Bob Weir


"This ones for the girl with lobotomy eyes" - Bob Weir 4/10/83

also for this place a more appropriate tune I can not think of: Weir all misfits!

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I remember when he said that in Morgantown about the girl, right before the US Blues encore. Great memories.

Oh no, I'm off topic. Yikes........guess I'm a troll
Island Head
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Re: One final thought on some people here

#226792 1 year, 9 months ago
[quote="ddderek" post=226763]2 things...
1. with all do respect, we can't just keep it about the music

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nycdave
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Re: One final thought on some people here

#226838 1 year, 9 months ago
Question to Mickey Hart: Why is it that you can bring some people to it but you can't make them get it?
Mickey Hart: Some people aren't ready to change. They don't come into this environment with a sense of openness. If you come to it with a lot of prejudices, you'll walk away with twice as many. But if you come to it wanting to have fun and be moved, it'll make you look inside and think of things you never thought of before. It makes other realities seem common... But I don't want to get into cosmic mumbo-jumbo.

Bob Weir: The undiscriminating and unconditional adulation and love of those people doesn't do a whole lot for the music, I'll say. When the crowd goes wild after we've rendered a dismal set, I don't think should clap at all. They should run us out of town on a rail - but they never do. I don't think that our audience is very critical, but they know that we are pretty much the only meaningful alternative in popular music. The rest of it all sounds pretty similar, and we're not like the rest of it.
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Still Takin it Weirder
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Re: One final thought on some people here

#226841 1 year, 9 months ago
I remember when he said that in Morgantown about the girl, right before the US Blues encore. Great memories.

Bingo! I could write a book on my experiences on that night alone... oh shit.. guess I'm delving into troll territory as this is a "furthur" site

Oh no, I'm off topic. Yikes........guess I'm a troll

Welcome to the club... Shit I think the annoited "trolls" are the ones who did "get it" either now or in the day....
Still Takin it Weirder
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Re: One final thought on some people here

#226844 1 year, 9 months ago
When the crowd goes wild after we've rendered a dismal set, I don't think should clap at all. They should run us out of town on a rail - Bob Weir

Bingo x 2 thanks Bobby. I know some of you walked out of a Grateful Dead show bitching about performance or setlist or anything... yet here... as I found out saying the never ending greatest show ever.. greatest setlist ever threads.. or after or during on the "review" threads LOL... EVERY Furthur show were bunk got me labeled a troll.... and I said (and got flamed for) that this kind of crowd response is what killed Jerry... people cheerinig even if he sucked that night made him not give 2 shits how f.. up he was... read the books its there before you respond did you talk to Jerry? I wear the scarlet T with pride ... I'd rather Bobby be in agreement with me than some internet "how can you ever criticize Bob Weir or Jerry Garcia or Furthur (internet crowd)?. If its awesome I'd say it. If it sucked I say it. Way more often than not it was very good. The chance of seeing the Giant X factor show is what kept many of us on the road. But the "boys" were human and had off nights.. doesn't make you a hater if you call one as such... just that you have a critical ear and can distinguish between a great show and a not so great one. ..........
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nycdave
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Re: One final thought on some people here

#226858 1 year, 9 months ago
I'm not sure that Dead Head support is what killed Jerry. Jerry, though a brilliant musician, may have had some other issues that contributed to his downfall. I would also note that while judging the music played is any listeners prerogative, how one goes about doing it can run the gamut from intelligent discourse to trash talk. A lot of musicians would love to have the support that the dead had from their fans. The band earned that support, though at times it lacked perspective.
Moving right along, how we treat each other out here, what we say and how we say it is a reflection on who we are. The internet offers people anonymity.
Laird Grant has been described as a life long friend of Jerry. He was also one of the first Grateful Dead roadies. This is what Laird had to say: "Jerry never laughed at the Deadheads because he'd been a soulless wanderer out there on the dark highway himself. He knew what that was. He did feel there should have been some other way for them to get off but again they were caught up in their own drug. The Dead."
gr8fuljen
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Re: One final thought on some people here

#226859 1 year, 9 months ago
apparently I've missed nothing... as you were, carry on...

Power to the Captain!
Sugaree1
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Re: One final thought on some people here

#226861 1 year, 9 months ago
WITS, you seem to miss one important point. You are not looked down upon because you have a different opinion than others. Read very carefully, its because you think your opinion makes you better rhan other people. Or at least that is how it sounds when i read your comments. You think you are smarter than everybody else, that you "get it" . unfortunately "getting it" is different for everybody. How difficult is that to understand? You are not in a position to decide what "getting it" means for anybody other than yourself
If that jubilee don't come, maybe I'll meet you, on the run
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Still Takin it Weirder
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Re: One final thought on some people here

#226865 1 year, 9 months ago
NYC Dave - Thanks.. I always find your comments pretty spot on. I should have said fans cheering wildly even after abysmal sets ( to use Weirs words) contributed to Jerrys death... if you go to work and everyone tells you how wonderful you are even when YOU know you sucked or were far from good...and it happens over and over... it kinda takes the motivation out of trying to elevate your "game". You always get the same response no matter what, I guess it doesn't matter..anywaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyy.

That said at least in the GD days.... at least among the hardcore fans...there WERE plenty of discerning listeners. Amongst my tour buddies whether we were together inside or not a vast majority of the time we would come out and have the same general opinion of the show. I mean, this is how shows got rated... how shows like 6-30-85, 7-17-89, 7-19-89, 10-16-89, 9-20-90. ( or hell most of 1985)...became later day "legends" or must have "tapes". My original point was this seems mostly lost with the Furthur crowd... if you spent anytime in the "review" part of the site as shows are going on live... every single night you would get multiple GREAT SETLIST.... GREAT SHow posts no matter what was played or how it was played. Every show can't be the greatest ever, every setlist can't be the greatest ever. I think it cheats a truely great or special show when every show is rated greatest ever. For this viewpoint I am a "troll" and the "mob" attacked.........

Anyway I'll get off the soapbox..but before I do I am nominatiing a promotion for Tony from Captain to Major Tony for his contribution to the growth of the Furthur Forum. Let it be seconded and it will be official.
Still Takin it Weirder
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Re: One final thought on some people here

#226867 1 year, 9 months ago
Sugaree1 wrote:
WITS, you seem to miss one important point. You are not looked down upon because you have a different opinion than others. Read very carefully, its because you think your opinion makes you better rhan other people. Or at least that is how it sounds when i read your comments. You think you are smarter than everybody else, that you "get it" . unfortunately "getting it" is different for everybody. How difficult is that to understand? You are not in a position to decide what "getting it" means for anybody other than yourself


LOL:

A. Look down on me ?????????????LOLOLOLOLOL I must be doing something right, you being a certified member of the mob I wear that as a badge of honor. Should I go back and quote all your intelligent "name calling" posts you made about me? Not the kynd deadhead friendly way brotha.
B. I don't think I am "better" than anyone... I state my opinions whether popular or not... it is MY opinon. If you have a problem with someone elses opinion state your opinion and why without resorting to name calling and 2nd grade bs...
3. As stated above this isn't a popularity contest... this is the friggin internet. Naturally I would like to get along with everyone..but if I don't do you really think I care??????????
4. Read your own words carefully... words like "piece of shit" "asshole"...do not reflect well on your intellect.
5. As far as "getting it"... whatever floats your boat or gets you by is AOK with me. Why you worry and fret so much about my opinions makes me wonder if you are really are that insecure..... and that you have to be a part of mob and gang attacks because you can't stand on your own 2 feet.
6. Thanks for takin a shot at me.. did I ever address you in this thread? Unprovocked personal attack.. beautiful!!! Now run to your minions for support...btw some of them have been very quiet the last few days. Further I hate to break this to you but I have many friends on this site..just because they aren't the loudest 300 times a day posters.. doesn't mean they aren't there or want to get caught up in this 2nd grade bs.
6. Lastly I'm sure if we met in person we'd get along fine. Don't take the internet so seriously.
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