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AcidTestGraduate
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Re: Grateful Dead - pick a year

#225469 1 year, 8 months ago
DigiGal wrote:
AcidTestGraduate wrote:

If I'm not mistaken Lemieux said there isn't a sbd of 8/27/72, so it can't be released.


I was actually told by those that know that the holdup is that Rhino holds the audio rights but doesn't hold the rights for the film.

A combo DVD/HDCD and/or Blu-Ray Disc release would probably be the goal with this.

Don't forget "New Riders of the Purple Sage 8/27/72 Veneta Oregon" performance has been released on CD. This release came from the Original 16-Track Reels.



Not disputing your sources, but seriously, if it were possible to release this officially I think it would have been done
a long time ago as this is in everyones top 10 of all time. I've had a 100th generation cassette of this for 30 years which
I listened to hundreds of times. One only need watch the video you posted to see what a great day it was.
MushroomMan
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Re: Grateful Dead - pick a year

#225470 1 year, 8 months ago
there are a few different SBD sources for 8/27/72...

gd72-08-27.008045.sbd.serafin.sbefail.t-flac16.
gd72-08-27.16582.sbd.braverman.sbeok.t-flac16.
gd72-08-27.21619.sbd.bertha-ashley.sbeok.t-flac16.
Last Edit: 1 year, 8 months ago by MushroomMan.
AcidTestGraduate
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Re: Grateful Dead - pick a year

#225472 1 year, 8 months ago
MushroomMan wrote:
there are a few different SBD sources for 8/27/72...

gd72-08-27.008045.sbd.serafin.sbefail.t-flac16.
gd72-08-27.16582.sbd.braverman.sbeok.t-flac16.
gd72-08-27.21619.sbd.bertha-ashley.sbeok.t-flac16.



the audio on the Sunshine Daydream video we've all watched is actually quite good. It's renowned and a favorite. Heck, I'm watching the vid right now for the umpteenth time. I just don't know why it wouldn't have already been released.
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Re: Grateful Dead - pick a year

#225475 1 year, 8 months ago
[quote="AcidTestGraduate" post=225469]DigiGal wrote:

Not disputing your sources, but seriously, if it were possible to release this officially I think it would have been done
a long time ago as this is in everyones top 10 of all time. I've had a 100th generation cassette of this for 30 years which
I listened to hundreds of times. One only need watch the video you posted to see what a great day it was.


Think about it how can Rhino release the video if they don't hold the film rights, I fully trust the source. Last year was the 40th Anniversary that would have been nice for timing but it could and should happen eventually because yea it's got to be one of the most requested releases of all times. An audio only release could happen but that would be less than ideal compared to what could be delivered if the rights can ever be secured for the film.
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AcidTestGraduate
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Re: Grateful Dead - pick a year

#225476 1 year, 8 months ago
[quote="DigiGal" post=225475]AcidTestGraduate wrote:
DigiGal wrote:

Not disputing your sources, but seriously, if it were possible to release this officially I think it would have been done
a long time ago as this is in everyones top 10 of all time. I've had a 100th generation cassette of this for 30 years which
I listened to hundreds of times. One only need watch the video you posted to see what a great day it was.


Think about it how can Rhino release the video if they don't hold the film rights, I fully trust the source. Last year was the 40th Anniversary that would have been nice for timing but it could and should happen eventually because yea it's got to be one of the most requested releases of all times. An audio only release could happen but that would be less than ideal compared to what could be delivered if the rights can ever be secured for the film.


If there was a good copy of this in the vault it would have been released by now. If it were not the property of the Grateful Dead would be the only reason it hadn't.

Considering you're obviously an audiophile, and if you could hear some of the boots I've listened to religiously
over the years might not understand I don't have to have 5.1 or whatever quality. As long as I can hear the five, six, or seven
musicians I'm pretty happy. For me it's always been about understanding what the moment was all about. Btw, when Dick's Picks vol 8 was release it was kind of a let down, because my boot was actually a bit faster, and I realized they were actually playing a bit slower. Funny, huh?
iamthedoor
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Re: Grateful Dead - pick a year

#225484 1 year, 8 months ago
SugarMee wrote:
I love 74, wall of sound at the pinnacle. cowboy Bob vocals and mannerisms are excellent. Crisp clear high energy

Sue, 85 is special to me for that being my 1st show, check out the peak at the end of LLR archive.org/details/gd1985-10-31.mtx.loy.30829.sbeok.flac16

Get it Bobby!!


Holy shit that LLR is awesome! Seriously check it out. That's a keeper fer sure.

As far as my own favorite year, I couldn't say but I love Primal Dead late sixties with Pig at his peak, I love 72, 74, 77, 78, It's hard to narrow it down from there but I think I'd be just as happy to witness any of them
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ZenoMarx
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PLEASE be quiet when the band is playing. PLEASE.

Re: Grateful Dead - pick a year

#225506 1 year, 8 months ago
Send me back to 1968, please. The way the band sounds. They way the equipment sounds. The dynamics; they could play soft as a butterfly or as loud as a volcano. The venues and small audiences. The spirit of the times, and I mention that because of how it affected both the band and the audience at the shows. The limited number of songs, and not a song I couldn't hear night after night after night. The purity and unbridled exploration in the fresh psychedelic air. My favorite recording, October 12th. Then the night after. The Valentine's show. The Anthem of the Sun recordings shows. The first three months. The last three months. The developing language and conversations as a band and between each other.

I spent an entire weekend mulling over the 72-08-27 recordings. There are several. For my money, these are the top four:
16582
3328
8045
21619

Sunshine Daydream film is as good as that will ever get. Our professionals have worked on it. There's nothing else to salvage. It's amazing. I daresay it is perfect just the way it is, and the free trade spirit serves it best. It wouldn't be any better with packaging and shrink wrap.

as for the Fillmore West box...the Kaplan transfers with the Healy mixes are better sounding recordings anyway. They blow away the sound of the official box. It doesn't matter that the box is sold out. The best option is free for the taking. Here are the SHN IDs for those interested:
gd69-02-27.sbd.6315
gd69-02-28.sbd.3397
gd69-03-01.sbd.4030
gd69-03-02.sbd.3344

*I could say any year through 1976 (not including 1975) and give good reason, but because I was asked and challenged, I'm happy to oblige. "I love everything about this band. I could never make such a call." C'mon. Play along. You aren't proving or saying anything by declaring to be too cool for the game.
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Last Edit: 1 year, 8 months ago by ZenoMarx.
OZA
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Re: Grateful Dead - pick a year

#225507 1 year, 8 months ago
ZenoMarx wrote:


*I could say any year through 1976 (not including 1975) and give good reason, but because I was asked and challenged, I'm happy to oblige. "I love everything about this band. I could never make such a call." C'mon. Play along. You aren't proving or saying anything by declaring to be too cool for the game.

Exactly! Thank you.
I don't care what year a person picks because there's probably a great reason for it. I'm just interested in seeing a person's reasons for picking that year.
RBull
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Re: Grateful Dead - pick a year

#225517 1 year, 8 months ago
Re: 8-27-72
In one of his little live chats that Mr. Lemieux does for the GD site, he said that they are "in negotiations" with the people who own the rights to the film, and that they are "very nice guys." I don't have a link, but you should be able to find it. I can't remember which one it's in but they are both worth watching. Anyway, short of actually nodding and winking, David very much held out a hope that it's going to happen.
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Re: Grateful Dead - pick a year

#225519 1 year, 8 months ago
RBull wrote:
Re: 8-27-72
In one of his little live chats that Mr. Lemieux does for the GD site, he said that they are "in negotiations" with the people who own the rights to the film, and that they are "very nice guys." I don't have a link, but you should be able to find it. I can't remember which one it's in but they are both worth watching. Anyway, short of actually nodding and winking, David very much held out a hope that it's going to happen.


I heard the band was a little embarrassed about this vid? The unofficial version is the prize for the NCAA Football pool.

My GD year pic, tough choice, but 70 sounds good.
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