There are issues that require more attention than agent orange having been used in Vietnam (watched the video) and genetically
modified food. The holidays, where to stay in SF and Denver, whether or not I get my Ogden ticket, and the Furthur friends forum flag are heavily on my mind right now.

I've been in Tehran for the last week looking for the flag. It's not easy trying to move around this city as an American, and what
with the language barrier and all. Yet I'll keep looking for the flag in hopes it can be returned in time for the new years run, and hopefully all will be well in the forum again!

Time to start thinking about growing as much food as possible for ourselves.

signed, and Yes it does sound like a Wheelman thread and I almost didn't click on it. Maybe change the title or something. just a suggestion.

signed here too. unfortunately, climate change is a bit more pressing at this time. Vegetarianism is actually one way that

we can lighten our load on the Planet like almost immediately. It's easy to do....just don't eat meat. The animals will love

you for it.

Bilbo wrote:


Amen to that!!

Of course if we all became vegetarians tomorrow it would severely disrupt our economy. But if everyone would gradually
curtail their meat intake we'd all benefit, especially the animals. And yes, the planet would benefit immensely.

AcidTestGraduate wrote:


What,and let the animals take over?

funky420 wrote:



Hey, not to worry for all those Packers fans up there. You can now get vegetarian bratwurst that are pretty darn good.
Perfect for tailgating at Lambeau on a -20 day. Brat, beer, shot of ranch dressing, and a shot of brandy and you're good
go!

AcidTestGraduate wrote:



BLASPHEMY! There's no way I (or any true cheesehead) would eat a vegetarian brat, I wouldn't even do a turkey brat!

^^^^^ Oh I bet you would after 3 days of killer bud and no food. And I bet you'd think it tasted good too!

But I understand a sea of green jackets with wedges of cheddar adorning their domes taunting you for having a Torfurky
would be some serious ridicule.

AcidTestGraduate wrote:



I dont know if anything is more serious than agent orange in our food supply.....

Hey acidtestgrad: If my friend cant make it to the ogden for some reason, you can have him ticket You will be the first person I will tell.

And in response to being a vegetarian... I think it is a good think for some people but not everyone has a body type for that.

I do eat meat, but it HAS to be responsbily raised, treated humanely, happy animals that are grass fed (not gmo grain fed), not pumped full of hormones sitting in there own shit, not pumped full of antibiotics, not raised in a massive industrail feedlot/CAFO (confined animal feeding operation). The meat I consume can not be crammed in tiny space, the chickens can not have there beaks cut off, and have to be able to see the light of day and be able to roam outside of there coop. This goes for the grassfed beef and free range chicken I eat. I also will only consume wild pacific non farmed fish.

I truly respect those who are vegetarians though but I personally cant live without meat. I have tried for a year when I was 16 and I have never been weaker.

Love and light

direwolflove222 wrote:



There's nothing like truly organic raised beef. I have friends who run an all organic farm, and all the animals they raise are done so on organic food

indeed! I prefer to get it in bulk from small family farms.

Love is real