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Terrapin Sedation
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Re: New article on the Grateful Dead in the New Yorker

#216709 1 year, 11 months ago
^^^^^ You don't need a guy's permission to name him, especially when he puts stuff on a public site.

In an article that was about taping, dispensing and archiving the GD in which you rightly spend the space to mention LMA and the dead concerts on there, and the reviews, and the number of downloads this concert got and that one didn't, and then you don't mention CM ---- this editor said you missed something.

Charlie is the go to ....
ZenoMarx
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Re: New article on the Grateful Dead in the New Yorker

#216712 1 year, 11 months ago
Terrapin Sedation wrote:
Charlie is the go to ....
Now, he is, but he wasn't always. That's why it would be opening up a huge, other topic. There were many, many other people before him doing the same thing, anchoring the process. The writer was relatively thorough, so to also inject that into the piece, and to do it any justice, he was obligating himself to something that deserves its own chapter. It was a smart move to not go there at all.

I don't believe CM has ever been employed by the GD or Rhino. Everyone else in that piece, at least to my knowledge, had been employed by the band or label. That may have been the dividing line as well
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jaredlang
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Re: New article on the Grateful Dead in the New Yorker

#216764 1 year, 11 months ago
The author of this article, Nick Paumgarten will be on Tales from the Golden Road next Sunday on Sirius/XM. The show starts at 4 PM EST and it is your opportunity to call in and comment on the article or ask questions.
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AcidTestGraduate
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Re: New article on the Grateful Dead in the New Yorker

#216847 1 year, 11 months ago
My take on this article is someone who both praises the Grateful Dead, yet can't resist the generalizations that will inevitably diminish their legacy in the minds of the uninitiated.

I thought when John K left DSO he did so with the blessing of his former band mates for the opportunity he was given to move up a few rungs in the musical world. DSO does not seem to be hurting in his absence. I've seen them once, and whilst they provide many with a good time, they're not for me.

A pretty good article. The best thing I came away with from reading it was Phil's quote, which I thought profound. "perhaps it was just too good to last"

Two bit piece don't buy no more, not so much as it done before.
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Re: New article on the Grateful Dead in the New Yorker

#216848 1 year, 11 months ago
Thanks for sharing the link to that, Jared
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Genshu
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Re: New article on the Grateful Dead in the New Yorker

#216897 1 year, 11 months ago
goodness what a wonderful article. learned a good bit of GD history. i cant believe how much i love the grateful dead.
Terrapin Sedation
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Re: New article on the Grateful Dead in the New Yorker

#216932 1 year, 11 months ago
I don't want to belabor this. I've said my piece. Some good information, lots of retread and I think NP is a headier than thou tool who never really got it. This article has some old quotes, I'm thinking his editor said get that fucking thing done.

It bothers me when he says about Garcia:

"They were generally without sex appeal. Bob Weir, their showman and heartthrob, might be said to be an exception, but he spent much of the eighties performing in short cutoff jean shorts and lavender tank tops—a sight even more troubling, I’d submit, than that of Garcia circa 1984, drooling on his microphone as he fought off the nods."

Does this characterization bother no one else: " Most objectionable, perhaps, were the Deadheads, that travelling gang of phony vagabonds."

Certainly a number of wookies fit in that category. Does Nick not consider himself a deadhead?

I could go on with my disdain for this article....


Apparently I'm not alone Seems like Nick P. misquoted Rob Eaton, according to bandmate Rob Baracco who was in the room during the interview.

From DSO Forum.

View Postrbarraco, on 19 November 2012 - 10:18 PM, said:
I have to say, I was a fly on the wall during this interview. That guy that wrote the article is a hater. Eaton did not say that. He took everything out of context. What a bunch of horse shit. RB
ZenoMarx
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Re: New article on the Grateful Dead in the New Yorker

#216934 1 year, 11 months ago
Terrapin Sedation wrote:
Apparently I'm not alone Seems like Nick P. misquoted Rob Eaton, according to bandmate Rob Baracco who was in the room during the interview.

From DSO Forum.

View Postrbarraco, on 19 November 2012 - 10:18 PM, said:
I have to say, I was a fly on the wall during this interview. That guy that wrote the article is a hater. Eaton did not say that. He took everything out of context. What a bunch of horse shit. RB
teafortexas mentions this Baracco quote on pg1 (not being snarky here, just letting you know the Eaton quote wasn't taken as truth).
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Re: New article on the Grateful Dead in the New Yorker

#216982 1 year, 11 months ago
ZenoMarx wrote:
Terrapin Sedation wrote:
Apparently I'm not alone Seems like Nick P. misquoted Rob Eaton, according to bandmate Rob Baracco who was in the room during the interview.

From DSO Forum.

View Postrbarraco, on 19 November 2012 - 10:18 PM, said:
I have to say, I was a fly on the wall during this interview. That guy that wrote the article is a hater. Eaton did not say that. He took everything out of context. What a bunch of horse shit. RB
teafortexas mentions this Baracco quote on pg1 (not being snarky here, just letting you know the Eaton quote wasn't taken as truth).


As I get on in years I become more and more skeptical about the media in general. This article seemed like it was trying to be a lot of things to a lot of people. The author praises, yet disses the band and us, the fans. So his article has some appeal to us, yet it also appeals to those who would nod in agreement with his less than flattering descriptions of us and the band, to those who never got "it".

Gees, I never once thought my travels were on the level of Kerouac's, despite having thumbed it great distances to some shows.

Unfortunately many will read this piece, published in a prestigious publication like the New Yorker, and just figure it's all true.
Oh well, we continue to remain this curiosity in American culture, certainly as misunderstood as ever.
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