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tdog
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Take a step back

Re: Dead Heads for Romney 2012

#196756 2 years ago
ZenoMarx wrote:
tdog wrote:
Turns out...
Ah, I get it. I was concerned as much. Your convictions lack depth and any rationale, so as you jump from plank to plank, you've done little more than loosen all the nails in your entire tiny platform. At worst, you're just an angry, miserable person looking for something, or someone, to place blame, and at best, you're a troll who gets their jollies at the potential of riling up the anonymous on a message board. You aren't interested in talking issues or having a discussion. A small man. Certainly not worthy of being admired for "having guts" to dare broach the subject in a place such as this. There should be more to your words than there is to be deserving of any such praise. You strike me as one of those "get a brain! morans" type people.


Ok.

Meanwhile, I'm still waiting for a decent, well crafted, cogent defense of Obama and his leadership record.
Freedom is truth.
B-Rad
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Re: Dead Heads for Romney 2012

#197114 2 years ago
sweetwilliamisdead wrote:
B-Rad wrote:
Here is the Republic Andrew Sullivan on how big the cuts in govt spending have been under Obama...the largest in forty years: andrewsullivan.thedailybeast.com/2012/05...overnment-obama.html


I guess yes this shows that government spending has been cut the most as a whole, but this is not the result of obamas policies. He is not in control of state and local spending, many states were forced to cut spending because they are going bankrupt and many states are mandated by their constitutions to have a balanced budget so they have no choice but to make cuts. This shows that the federal governments spending still increased even if at slower rates than the Bush adminastration. This also fails to address the issue of the impacts of healthcare reform once it kicks in and you can talk all day about spending but tax rates matter to. I feel like this shows the adismal state of the economy more than it proves that obama has cut the governments size. I can post articles all day from sources just as valid if not better that go in to much more detail about the negative implacations of Obamas fiscal policy. I suppose technically what you said is correct gov cuts have been biggest under obama but this correlation doesnt seem to have any causation.


Exactly!!! It is much larger than just what the President does. The very fact that the GOP has more than doubled the use of the filibuster this last session should show us all right there that the dismall state of the economy has as much to do with GOP obstruction as it does the President's policies. He also unilaterally put a freeze on all government pay increases and negotiated at least two cuts. So he gets half the credit for the smaller gov...which I don't even think is prudent in a recession such as ours (ex: Greece!). I would be interested in reading those sources that claim Obama's fiscal policy has negativly impacted the economy.
EyeBallKid
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Re: Dead Heads for Romney 2012

#197117 2 years ago
83msg1sttyme wrote:
romney ryan got my vote screw ovomit and moocher michelle

Please explain the name moocher michelle. I do not understand how she is mooching off of anything unless you are willing to consider all first ladies "moochers." Im not accusing you of it, but it sounds to me like more racist stereotypes about black women imposed on her. Im hoping this was not your intention but I read moocher as "Wellfare Queen."
ZenoMarx
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Posts:1024
PLEASE be quiet when the band is playing. PLEASE.

Re: Dead Heads for Romney 2012

#197145 2 years ago
When I see the word "moocher", I think Minnie the Moocher. I like Cab Calloway, and I like that song. I associate good things with that word. It makes me smile.

From now on...EVERYBODY...Minnie the Moochah!!!
You aren't interesting or clever when you write or speak in the lyrics of others. Rather, what are YOUR words?
B-Rad
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Posts:1123

Re: Dead Heads for Romney 2012

#197375 2 years ago
[quote="tdog" post=196756]ZenoMarx wrote:
tdog wrote:
Turns out...


Ok.

Meanwhile, I'm still waiting for a decent, well crafted, cogent defense of Obama and his leadership record.


Really? Just read back through this thread. Every single misinformed thing you brought up was shown to be false and when this happens you offer no rebuttle you just move on to the next rightwing lie.
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kevin
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Posts:3319

Re: Dead Heads for Romney 2012

#197406 2 years ago
NO POLITICS DURING SHOWS, show some respect

-- smell every flower --
B-Rad
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Re: Dead Heads for Romney 2012

#197410 2 years ago
kevin wrote:
NO POLITICS DURING SHOWS, show some respect



Tell that to Phil.
B-Rad
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Re: Dead Heads for Romney 2012

#197414 2 years ago
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AcidTestGraduate
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Re: Dead Heads for Romney 2012

#197654 2 years ago
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I've read all the posts on this thread, and heard enough about politics in my life. The two party system
has failed us. Used to be my dream was to see the Dead do a killer Dark Star. That dream will never see fruition,
so my dream now is see an independent get elected president.
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AcidTestGraduate
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Re: Dead Heads for Romney 2012

#197661 2 years ago
B-Rad wrote:
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Can you imagine the look on Phil's face if there was a Romney sticker on his amp? He wouldn't be playing
St. Stephen > The Eleven, but instead some John Philips Sousa marches
kevin
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Re: Dead Heads for Romney 2012

#197709 2 years ago
AcidTestGraduate wrote:
B-Rad wrote:
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Can you imagine the look on Phil's face if there was a Romney sticker on his amp? He wouldn't be playing
St. Stephen > The Eleven, but instead some John Philips Sousa marches


If phil's amp had a romney sticker, it would be dust covered in a storage unit somewhere while he plotted with rhino executives how to release more shows and gain the most profit from such an endeavor (and TXR would just be another shuttered bay area restaraunt)

-- smell every flower --
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sweetwilliamisdead
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Posts:131

Re: Dead Heads for Romney 2012

#197730 2 years ago
B-Rad wrote:
sweetwilliamisdead wrote:
B-Rad wrote:
Here is the Republic Andrew Sullivan on how big the cuts in govt spending have been under Obama...the largest in forty years: andrewsullivan.thedailybeast.com/2012/05...overnment-obama.html


I guess yes this shows that government spending has been cut the most as a whole, but this is not the result of obamas policies. He is not in control of state and local spending, many states were forced to cut spending because they are going bankrupt and many states are mandated by their constitutions to have a balanced budget so they have no choice but to make cuts. This shows that the federal governments spending still increased even if at slower rates than the Bush adminastration. This also fails to address the issue of the impacts of healthcare reform once it kicks in and you can talk all day about spending but tax rates matter to. I feel like this shows the adismal state of the economy more than it proves that obama has cut the governments size. I can post articles all day from sources just as valid if not better that go in to much more detail about the negative implacations of Obamas fiscal policy. I suppose technically what you said is correct gov cuts have been biggest under obama but this correlation doesnt seem to have any causation.



Exactly!!! It is much larger than just what the President does. The very fact that the GOP has more than doubled the use of the filibuster this last session should show us all right there that the dismall state of the economy has as much to do with GOP obstruction as it does the President's policies. He also unilaterally put a freeze on all government pay increases and negotiated at least two cuts. So he gets half the credit for the smaller gov...which I don't even think is prudent in a recession such as ours (ex: Greece!). I would be interested in reading those sources that claim Obama's fiscal policy has negativly impacted the economy.


You seem hell bent on bringing elements totally irrelevant to what I have been arguing about into this discourse. Cuts in government pay are not going to balance the budget or help the economy, i can see your very excited that obama has been able to cut the pay of public servants. the article you supplied shows that it has shrunk most under obama due to state and local gov cuts, this has nothing to do with obamas policy or gop filibusters, which i remind you again I have not been defending the gop anyways, they definetly contribute to this mess. You continue to ignore how the healthcare bill will affect use in the future and the bust of a stimulus bill, both of which obama personally fought for. The effects of extending and expanding entitlement programs is much greater on the budget than you can ever make up for by cutting federal jobs and salaries. For a detailed account of the affects of Obamas policy one thing I might suggest reading is "Seeds of Destruction" by glenn hubbard and peter navarro, two graduates of harvard business school, one of which is the Dean of the graudaute school of business at Columbia University. Im sorry this is an actual book so I realize it is harder to get your hands on, but im not going to insult your intelligence by posting a half page article which offers two statistics and act like that explains how obamas policy has impacted the biggest economy in the world.

in lieu of that book you might read www.forbes.com/sites/peterferrara/2012/0...er-in-world-history/
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