lostsailor wrote:


Well I can say in this case at least that's its someone who taxes people more money the more they earn, to take care of people that (for the most part) can't take care of themselves.

Or I guess for our situation, get that debt down a bit.

DOWN WITH OBAMA. Nobel peace prize my ASS.lol. They must b givin em away these days. Ima go walk an old lady across the street and see if i get one too.hahaha. DONT VOTE FOR OBAMA. In fact i think its best not to vote at all. No Matter who is president it wont matter. It'll all b the same. Unless Bob runs. BOB WEIR FOR PRESIDENT!!!!!!!

NewHampshireJed wrote:


I'm still confused. You believe that liberals, the "good ones" at least, believe in progressive taxes? And to take care of people that can't take care of themselves. That's amazing. Very shallow, but amazing. Here's what you do: Go pick up a biography of Thomas Jefferson and READ it very carefully. Maybe then you'll undestand how liberlaism works and how it is, as a concept, the very fabricate of this country. I'd also suggest you read up on James Madison, as the two were like Hunter-Garcia.

It's just a wonder how few people attack liberalism and yet can't explain the basis of what a liberal is. or is not. And have the gall to call Obama out as not being a liberal (and particularly a "good" liberal).

The President is just the spokesman for the hill.

He gets on the "Fake O Clock" news and explains to the people what they are working on and how everyone will benefit.

Please realize that the government and it's holdings is something very few can grasp.

Another example of the mis informed> uneducated American public- that even if they wanted to do something about policy, they wouldn't even know where to start.

The Further boards seem like a good place to start?

I was saying he is a liberal. He's also a terrible leader and a terrible president.

lostsailor wrote:


Lostsailor,
I am fully aware of the historical definition and context of what being a true liberal means. Free trade, capitalism, equal rights, freedom of religion, I get all that, I am a liberal by that definition. But we all know that it is not how it is interpreted nowadays.

He is bordering on the socialism line and I am not down for that. We need to bring back states rights, smaller federal government. Everyone should have healthcare!!! But Obama's plan full of earmarks and deals for his constituents is not the way to go. Have every state draft up their own policy because I am POSITIVE that we have different issues here in NH than California has or even Vermont!!

I understand that you think that was somewhat shallow definition (which it was) but when you get down to the nuts and bolts of it it's not too far off. I also stick with what I said above, a bad liberal and a bad president/leader.

And remember that Lincoln was a Republican but back then Republicans where much more like Democrats in present times, things change!

dont forget the good ol right to keep and bear arms,obama doent like that and jefferson sure as hell did