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Grateful fredhead
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Re: Is their a way to stop ticket brokers???

#14693 3 years, 4 months ago
onthebusin03 wrote:
Now that I personally won't do, but then again I'm not making seven figures a year. It's easy for me to avoid that sector of the ticket market when you can't even seriously consider it.

People that do though, they have the money, they decide if 440 or 500 bucks is worth it. It's pretty much on a path that can't be stopped without some sort of intervention, legally or otherwise.


So pretty much only the rich can go get good seats to these shows
onthebusin03
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Re: Is their a way to stop ticket brokers???

#14695 3 years, 4 months ago
Again, not saying I'm in agreement with that situation, but what's to stop it?
Grateful fredhead
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Re: Is their a way to stop ticket brokers???

#14698 3 years, 4 months ago
onthebusin03 wrote:
Again, not saying I'm in agreement with that situation, but what's to stop it?


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Last Edit: 3 years, 4 months ago by Grateful fredhead.
onthebusin03
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Re: Is their a way to stop ticket brokers???

#14699 3 years, 4 months ago
I'm rooting for whoever decides to work towards it.
StuartSlate
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Re: Is their a way to stop ticket brokers???

#14702 3 years, 4 months ago
Paperless ticketing cuts out the brokers, but it also makes it a hassle arriving and entering for some groups of people. Because of the details of the process, I know of no way that anyone, broker, agency, venue, whomever - can scalp a ticket that has not been printed.

A paperless ticket is only printed at the time of entry at the venue by the credit/debit card holder/purchaser with proper ID to whom the ticket was sold. Unless someone devises a way to cost effectively forge documents ticket scalpers are shut out.

Now, paperless ticketing isn't an option for everyone (if you don't have a card you can't do it), but it works for me. I have attended three concerts in the past 3 years that sold paperless tickets ONLY to an event. However - since it isn't a realistic option for all fans at all times - at least some tickets at every venue for every event should be reserved for paperless ticketing.

The best seats should go to the band's fans (who will actually attend) at face value - IMO.
pairdoc
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Re: Is their a way to stop ticket brokers???

#14705 3 years, 4 months ago
Tickets for venues are divided up among the fan club online order system (FrontGate Tickets), the fan club mail order system (GDTS TOO), the venue, and Ticketmaster. The band/fan club actually holds the best seats, and they're the ones who determine the allotments. Brokers then get their tickets from their own allotment from TM, or buy paying kids to grab tickets from online presales and general sales.

Ticket pricing is about the market forces of supply and demand, but timing has a great deal to do with it. Early on, ticket prices on sites such as StubHub will be at their highest. Note that most of these sellers are brokers, but since everyone can now get into the act, many are also individuals (i.e., Deadheads), who are trying to make a quick buck (maybe to pay a broker so they can upgrade their seats). People who want to get their tickets early for piece of mind are going to pay a higher price - there's no incentive for sellers to lower their prices early on. However, as the show date approaches, the prices will drop, as supply is greater than demand. The absolute lowest prices will be the day before the show (and occasionally, the day of), but you must then get the tickets electronically via e-mail, and this carries some slight risk, especially if it's an individual and not a broker. Plus, if you're touring, it's not always convenient to have to find a place to print out tickets.

However, I have often been able to score amazing seats in the front center by using this strategy, sometimes just above cost. Getting GA tickets this way is typically below cost, since the brokers are now focusing on minimize their losses, rather than maximizing profits.

Now, there will always be folks with large amounts of expendable cash, who will pay big bucks for their prime tix. Then, there are those who just want to have the security of having a ticket (not necessarily a premium seat), and will pay a bit more than face early on. But, this represents the minority of people. So, if you really want to hurt the brokers, wait until 1-3 days before the show and watch the ticket prices drop. Use one of the big three companies, StubHub, TicketNetwork, and TicketsNow. You can also look on eBay. Finally, you can often find some deals (early on or last minute and everywhere in between) on Craigslist from Deadheads who aren't motivated by profit.

Hope this helps someone else.
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JOE DANGLE
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Re: Is their a way to stop ticket brokers???

#14707 3 years, 4 months ago
I remember when tickets got harder to get in 88,89,90, the bunk tickets became more prevelent. I actually made the 8 hour drive from Ohio to Albany the day before the first onsale date (after mail order of course). I wanted to ensure that I would get tickets and went directly to the knick. We were 3 or four in line, with no brokers to be seen. 10 minutes before window opens two guys role up with briefcases, enter a door next to the window, exchange cash for a stack of tickets and walks out before the first ticket was sold. By the time I was leaving myself, one of the men were already selling tickets outside for five to ten times face and other brokers were alreadt shut-out. At almost every show of the runs at the Knick there was guys selling counterfeit tickets for $20 or $25. I was vending at most of these shows right under the over pass next to the nick and watched these clowns sell stacks of bogus tickets before I figured out that they were fakes. The kicker is that I remember that these guys would not negotiate on price even knowing they were selling counterfiets.

One more story; In the parking lot at the Meadowlands (across the man bridge) there was a guy that grabbed a fist full of tickets from a scalper and ran (as he was chased by 5-6 thugs) throughthe lot trrowing tickets in the air. He was calling himself robinhood. "giving tickets to the poor heads" He took refuge in our van where we got baked until the coast was clear. Same shows that Adam Katz disapeared......what a fucking shame.
Grateful fredhead
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Re: Is their a way to stop ticket brokers???

#14716 3 years, 4 months ago
It looks like we have the cause and voice we need to band together on this purpose
JustBusiness
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Re: Is their a way to stop ticket brokers???

#14966 3 years, 4 months ago
I'm bummed about it too, since people seem to be scalping the best seats. I got lucky and am in the 11th row, but far off center for their show in Canadaigua. I need to figure out how to get as close as possible for one show in my lifetime.

Maybe grant each forum member an opportunity to purchase 2 tickets prior to release for 1 of their local shows, that seems like an equitable way to allow everyone to get a good seat for at least 1 show in their time.
CinnamonGirl53
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Re: Is their a way to stop ticket brokers???

#14974 3 years, 4 months ago
The venues often have ticket sales on day of show from their box office. Waiting it out sometimes works. Not much good if you need to plan ahead though.
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