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83msg1sttyme
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Re: Phil:: Please dont REMOVE the OBAMA sticker

#14206 3 years, 4 months ago
If you want to fix the problem just restore the tax table, close the corporate tax loopholes, have all state taxes equal so the corporations don't move around and blackmail states into not taxing them, fine-penalize corporations heavily for taking business overseas, stop all lobbying, cut all political donations and advertising and have more debates with all candidates included...that would be a start
i agree with ya on that ,i wasn talking corruption i was talking money and soros has donated plenty im sure out of the kindnessof his heart,please.corruption and unions go hand in hand
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sjfgreenman
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Re: Phil:: Please dont REMOVE the OBAMA sticker

#14213 3 years, 4 months ago
The unions aren't perfect, they need fixing...not elimination of their rights.
All big organizations have problems, do we want to do away with them all? Doesn't make sense.

The right wingers want you to focus on the unions. IMO that's aiming low when the real mess, the majority of it was caused by those still not held accountable..Wall Street, large corporations and their CEO's, real estate companies and banks..

..and who for the most part supports the worst crooks, giving them breaks and doing their bidding(Walker)?.we've been swindled the last decade but not by the unions or Dems

why single out the unions? because Walker, Koch, Fox and Rush say to?
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drpsilocybo
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Re: Phil:: Please dont REMOVE the OBAMA sticker

#14214 3 years, 4 months ago
Obama never would have been elected if he hadn't been portrayed favorably in the media. The Corporate media.

now days campaign contributions don't mean much, it's more effective to just buy CNN

the people who control the dialogue in the mainstream media ensured Obama's success, hes a corporate slave just like every other politician, playing a part in this two party partisan politics bullshit that keeps American's distracted from the real issues.

that said I'll probably vote for him in 2012, he'll have more freedom in his second term.

I thought it was weird that the boys were supporting Obama so strongly, but hey, they've actually talked to him in person, I've never seen him. Maybe they know something we don't.
Shakin Nagan
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Re: Phil:: Please dont REMOVE the OBAMA sticker

#14225 3 years, 4 months ago
>>I thought it was weird that the boys were supporting Obama so strongly, but hey, they've actually talked to him in person, I've never seen him. Maybe they know something we don't.

I wonder if they had a schmee with him.
Abba
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Re: Phil:: Please dont REMOVE the OBAMA sticker

#14226 3 years, 4 months ago
Why keep voting the side people in? I try not to get involved with political discussion...it is really hard not to get sucked in. It seems as though our whole system is fucked...the leaders are just pawns..we all know that..but the system itself is like a smashed window...and we should try and glue it back together? I'm all about an overhaul...if that is even possible. Lets try a something else. Not DEM or REP
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83msg1sttyme
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Re: Phil:: Please dont REMOVE the OBAMA sticker

#14230 3 years, 4 months ago
"why single out the unions? because Walker, Koch, Fox and Rush say to? "
i dont watch or listen to any of these people i singled them out cuz i used to be in one and know first hand the BS that goes on OK,you obviously want the last word so have at it im done going back and forth nothing i say is going to change your mind and vice versa .later
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Darxtar
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Re: Phil:: Please dont REMOVE the OBAMA sticker

#14268 3 years, 4 months ago
Good article: Phil Lesh: Barack Obama Resurrected The Dead

www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/04/17/phil-l...ama-re_n_188111.html


After Lesh, who had never publicly supported a presidential candidate, threw his lot in with Obama, he was anxious to do a benefit concert for him. But he was all but done with The Dead, so it was going to feature his other band, Phil and Friends.

"My son Brian said, 'No Daddy, you've got to get The Dead together because it will be so much more meaningful and important,'" the musician chuckled during a recent phone interview.

One benefit performance led to another and then an inaugural ball concert. Next thing they knew, Lesh, guitarist Bob Weir and drummers Mickey Hart and Bill Kreutzmann were back together.

"It came off so well that we thought we owe it to ourselves to play again," Lesh said. "It brings out something in all of us, in our gestalt and our totality, that we can't deliver, we can't find anywhere else."

Phil was all but done with The Dead but did this benefit as the Dead because he thought it important. I think he stills thinks it is important. Do you really think Donald Trump is going to fix this mess or some Tea Party fanatic. Have you read the paper lately. No unions, no medicaid for the poor and disabled, no medicare. Just a few fat cats and lots and lots of poor people with no voice what so ever. We better start making some noise or we are going to be totally screwed.
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Shakin Nagan
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Re: Phil:: Please dont REMOVE the OBAMA sticker

#14303 3 years, 4 months ago
Has Obama done anything in support of the unions?
WorkingmansEd
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Re: Phil:: Please dont REMOVE the OBAMA sticker

#14309 3 years, 4 months ago
Obama > Palin (Doubt McCain lives to see 2012).

FWIW.
Abba
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Re: Phil:: Please dont REMOVE the OBAMA sticker

#14317 3 years, 4 months ago
No one is going to fix this...nothing new under the sun.. Community works...we are to far seperated and far to large for this shit to work... The thing is we could all UNITE and become ONE voice and get some attention.
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