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scar1et_f1re
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Re: $150 too much for TC says BJ

#127106 2 years, 7 months ago
What Everyone seems to be missing is TC is modelled after Levon Helms the ramble, Which I understand charges $150 a ticket. Where is the thread complaining about his prices?

Phil said TC will sell tickets at all price points. But these first few shows are special, I'm sure Phil needed to fly in JK / Warren plus. I'm not saying it's cheap. The gd / Furthur have always been kind to the fans that way. But I'm not surprised.

Note: I have not read BJ's article.
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Re: $150 too much for TC says BJ

#127107 2 years, 7 months ago
Terrapin Sedation wrote:
Didn't know where Blair Jackson was going with his latest blog. But bottom line is, the Terrapin Crossroad tickets are too much for his bottom line.

dead.net/features/blair-jackson/blair-s-...g-music-elite?page=5

I don't know if I agree. Has he ever gone to a Broadway Show?

Did he see Jerry on Broadway? If memory serves -- and it might not -- I thought it was about $75 for those tix in 1987. The frickin' handbill goes for $83 on Wolfgang these days.

Special occasions in special venues can justify the price. Just save your ticket stubs and memorabilia folks.


I agree with you. 150 is worth it as I would likely only see one show at TC.
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Re: $150 too much for TC says BJ

#127121 2 years, 7 months ago
Denver Man wrote:
I know I am going to get burned at the stake for saying this but Blair's blogs usually make me want to jump off a tall building.


I won't lite the fuse. I don't feel his POV much more often than I agree with it. I suppose his contributions are by design some of the time. If he is just boot-licking all the time, he would become much less relevant. It is better for him professionally to ruffle some feathers and I think it's deliberate many times.
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Re: $150 too much for TC says BJ

#127136 2 years, 7 months ago
This was emailed to me recently:

Lesh Addresses Terrapin Ticket Prices
> >
> > AP – San Rafael, California. Today former Grateful Dead bassist Phil Lesh addressed price gouging accusations when opening ticket prices for twelve shows at his new digs, “Terrapin Crossroads,” were announced at $150 general admission and $300 for alleged “VIP” tickets. Crossroads is Lesh’s new concert venue and eatery which has suffered through many false starts, most notable of which was when Lesh abandoned plans to open in Fairfax when the town council voted down his petition to change the town name to “Phairphax” and charge a royalty to the town.
> >
> > Lesh’s new concert venue opens at the Grate Room at Terrapin Crossroads with a twelve-show Phil Lesh & Friends run. Phil Lesh’s friends include his son, Grahame, Jeff Chimenti, John Kadlecik, Joe Russo, Larry Campbell, Teresa Williams and Warren Haynes. Phans are angry with Lesh’s ticket prices.
> >
> > Tickets Phormula Revealed
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> > Lesh today revealed that, in fact, the $150 and $300 prices were only indicative of “blended rates” based on a new “Phormula.” “The Grateful Dead were instrumental in inventing and implementing innovations in sound and ticket sales,” Lesh stated. Basically, the Phormula will work like this: ticket prices will be based on a trinomial algorithm solving for variables including who is playing in the show: for example, a Warren Haynes show will cost more compared to a John Kadlecik show. Ticket prices will also vary by songs played – set lists will be formulated in advance. “A “Dark Star>St. Stephen” show will cost you more than an “Octopuses Garden” show, as well it should.,” Lesh claimed.
> >
> > Lesh explained the Phormula Further (no pun intended): “we went back and cataloged all the tapes. “Dark Star” was yelled out in the audience over the 30 year history of the Grateful Dead 12,347,411 times. At $0.01 per yell, Dark Star value is $123,474.11 divided by the intended audience at the show of 500 leaves a base ticket price of $246.94. The trinomial algorithm is then used to raise and drop the price.” Lesh continued: “we don’t know where this could end up – in fact, we may have to hit you up for more money at the door when you leave if, for instance, a special guest joins us or we decide to play “Sugar Magnolia” instead of “Black Peter.”” “However, no refunds will be issued for forgotten lyrics or half-played songs,” Lesh chuckled.
> >
> > “Look,” Lesh continued, for years we hardly made any money, and a lot of these rich people now will pay us pretty much anything to play anything, so why not do it, and charge them accordingly?” Lesh added, “As a Phavor to the Phans, I added my son Grahame to all the shows to bring down the Phormula price – the Phans are pretty ungratephul.” Reports that Lesh confiscated his son’s graduation money as a “Playing in the Band” fee could not be independently confirmed.
> >
> > Toll Booth and Phaced-book Concepts Floated
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> > Lesh also revealed plans to erect toll plazas at Yacht Club Drive and Francisco, and at the North and South approaches to Yacht Club Drive on Francisco itself. “Well, if they’ll pay $300 to hear us play in a restaurant where we’re also charging them to eat, and $5.00 for a webcast, we will definitely charge them $1.00 for a drive by. “
> >
> > We have long-term plans to connect all our Phans through social media by starting up “Phaced-book,” Lesh went on to say. “For a mere $500 charge, we’ll let you postm and then wel'll take, all your private information you freely give us, package it and take it public with Morgan Stanley through a stock offering – we think this an idea already proven in the marketplace.”
> >
> > Koons and Adams Sue
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> > Debra Koons, widow of former Grateful Dead guitarist Jerry Garcia filed suit in Marin County Superior Court alleging that because “Jerry ate a lot of food, drove in San Rafael too and that John Kadlecik is playing his riffs, the Garcia estate is entitled to a royalty on Lesh’s restaurant, music and toll booth plans.” Immediately following, suit was also filed by another of Garcia’s former wives, Carolyn “Mountain Girl” Adams, who stated through representatives “if she’s suing, I am too.”
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Re: $150 too much for TC says BJ

#127138 2 years, 7 months ago
^^^ that person needs a job

edit: by person i mean author not you jaredlang
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WayfaringDreamer
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Re: $150 too much for TC says BJ

#127147 2 years, 7 months ago
Living on the east coast, I can't afford the travel costs to go see Phil at his new venue.

If this was in driving range, I'd go to at least one show.
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Re: $150 too much for TC says BJ

#127156 2 years, 7 months ago
teafortexas wrote:
Denver Man wrote:
I know I am going to get burned at the stake for saying this but Blair's blogs usually make me want to jump off a tall building.


I won't lite the fuse. I don't feel his POV much more often than I agree with it. I suppose his contributions are by design some of the time. If he is just boot-licking all the time, he would become much less relevant. It is better for him professionally to ruffle some feathers and I think it's deliberate many times.


You make a good point. It's probably in the same realm as sport "experts" on yahoo, weather forecasters etc. Boring doesn't sell but controversy and over glamorization does...
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Re: $150 too much for TC says BJ

#127166 2 years, 7 months ago
WayfaringDreamer wrote:
Living on the east coast, I can't afford the travel costs to go see Phil at his new venue.
If this was in driving range, I'd go to at least one show.


Living on the left coast, that is what I said about the Beacon.... at first....

edit: for the record, plane ticket to fly PDX->JFK cost me the same as PDX->SFO! If only I had more vacation days to drive...
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Re: $150 too much for TC says BJ

#127174 2 years, 7 months ago
wlewis wrote:
^^^ that person needs a job

edit: by person i mean author not you jaredlang


if he is getting paid for writing silly parody like that then he already has an awesome job!
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Re: $150 too much for TC says BJ

#127183 2 years, 7 months ago
^^^ i suppose if that's your idea of an awesome job, then yes!
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