I need to clarify a couple of things though.
If anyone feels that they were treated unfairly, please say so. Don't harbor ill feelings. The intent was fairness to all, and if you look back at this thread it will show that through the whole process, starting at the beginning. Save the disgruntled comments and the unnecessary continued whining about it. In the rare case it may happen that someone gerts slighted, but definitely not intentionally, and we all will try to make it up to that person when we can. Sometimes situations come up that are beyond our collective control so we have to play it by ear.
Secondly, DM did in fact offend me. He recognized that I was not involved in the planning for RR, and said so at the top of this page. When I explained this to him after RR (when it was to late to fix anything and a ridiculous time to start complaining) he called me a liar in a PM. I let it go at the time, hoping it would blow over. When it didn't, and the whining about the same people always having the flag started, I took offense. Many people here have tried to make it as fair as possible and don't deserve to be treated that way. So the guy has a personal issue, the collective of people had the flag, not just one, and he felt like he was unfairly treated. It wasn't our fault what happened to him, plus being only person with only one vote, majority held the gathering at a different place. So sorry, but then the unexplained one line complaints start with no offer for resolution, just whining. So I got pissed and called him out about it. I did over react, I usually don't do that, but after the whole thing at RR and being called a liar I wanted him to air his grievance and get it over with, and I used a method that's not really cool for this forum.
Maybe it worked, maybe not. Hopefully we have all thought about what is fair, and realize that the effort is sharing and being fair to all. That anyone who has a grievance can say so openly and expect some kind of resolution. To continue to hold a grudge is unnecessary and unhealthy, to the individual and the group. To continue to make comments and not look for resolution is unacceptable also. Its your flag as much as anyone else's.
Say what's on your mind, go crazy, talk about it, ask for the flag, vote on it. The democratic process is the model here.
Sorry for being such a smartass.
You are smoking serious crack. I didn't call you a liar in any PM but now I am. Why did you make that up? Huh? If anything you attacked me in the PMs. What are you calling me out on? What did I do? I never said anyone treated me unfairly and how am I treating people unfairly? Huh? Do you really want me to cut and paste the PMs right here? I think you would be pretty damn embarrassed if I did. Explain your issue with me in fucking english. Why are you doing this? Seriously man this is such bullshit. Stop making crap up, you sound like my 8 year old. Be a man and tell me what your problem is or shut the fuck up.
You keep going on and on about bringing up issues bringing up grievences and I did - I said the same people always have the flag and you lost your mind. I was looking for resolution I was a giving a suggestion. I don't understand what you are doing here. Does that mean anyone should bring up grievences except for me?
You should open your eyes and see that you are really making yourself look bad. I apologized to you when I ddin't have to I am or I should say was ready to bury the hatchet in fact I buried the hatchet 2 months ago but you are the one with the issues dude. YOU are the one holding a grudge. Take a long hard look in the mirror before you go on another rant.
I'm tired of this. I'm tired of being treated like an asshole and I am very sorry fortrying to do coordinate a meet up at RR or anywhere for that matter. I'm sorry but I can't stand this anymore.
Tryin' to find a breath of air
I went walkin' on the mountain
A friend had told me I'd find you there