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scar1et_f1re
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Re: Dead Heads For Obama 2012

#113322 2 years, 9 months ago
For what it's worth Ron Paul was an obstetrician - and he will never get my vote.

It does not affect ME personally, but anyone who tries to tell another family that they cannot have an abortion does not deserve to be given any powers. I am in theory opposed to abortions, but there are cases where they make sense. It's a horrible decision to have to make, but who the hell is he to tell anyone else what to do with their bodies and their families. Sorry guy, we had enough deaths from self inflicted abortions before before Roe v Wade.

Perry is out as of today.

And Newt, what a bloody fool (my opinion). This is how you handle a crisis? (one of his former wives (#2 of 3 ??) went on TV this morning to say Newt wanted an open marriage (I didn't see, but read highlights, I'm sure there was more).

Newt would not comment beyond saying it was more than 10 years ago and a family matter.

Gingrich referred all inquiries about the matter to his two daughters, who have criticized the decision.
"My two daughters Kathy and Jackie have sent a letter to the president of ABC News, saying from a family perspective they think this is totally wrong," he said. "They think ABC should not air anything like this and that intruding into family things that are more, that are more than a decade old are simply wrong."
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Re: Dead Heads For Obama 2012

#113323 2 years, 9 months ago
SunshineSue wrote:
patchmyfurthur wrote:
if you are all ok with SOPA passing and this NDAA passing, fine vote for Obama.

I don't know if I will vote, because I too have lost faith in our government.

First of all, the White House has already said they will veto SOPA, and clearly it will never get out of Congress anyway. I agree with you on NDAA, and even Obama's signing statement saying he will not allow detentions is small comfort. it is still less destructive than the original Patriot Act, though.
However, given what he has had to work with for a Congress, I'd say Obama has accomplished some good things. Don't overlook the importance of his reversals of the Bush policies on EPA regulations, stem cell research, family planning availability and health care. I believe you're under 26, Patrick, which means thanks to Obama (and many, many others) and his health care reform act, you can hang on to your parent's insurance for several years longer. Anyone on the forum who has had previous health problems can now get the insurance that they would previously have been denied. Insurance companies can no longer cancel your policy after you're diagnosed; this alone is literally a life saver. I've seen patients diagnosed with cancer who then get their insurance yanked the minute they need it, effectively handing them a death sentence. He's ended Don't Act/Don't Tell, ended enforcement of DOMA, and appointed 2 progressive women to the Supreme Court. Most of our troops are out of Iraq, Osama Bin Laden and Muhammar Gaddafi are dead, and we've supported uprisings and significant change in the Middle East. Is it enough or everything I want to see from our government? Not even close, but it's a hell of a lot better than the previous 8 years or more.
It's easy to lose faith in the system. But voting isn't a sign of support for the status quo, imho, it's the only way to start changing it! Take care who you vote for, make it count! That's going to be a whole lot more helpful to everyone than not voting at all.
Well said Sue!!! I'm in no way a shill for our President, but as a bit of a political junkie, I have NEVER seen a sitting President treated so poorly by the acting Congress. From the day he walked in the door, he's been accused being a socialist, a Marxist, a facist, a communist, and even compared to Hitler. He has been so unfairly treated by the Republican side from the get go. Frankly, President Obama has gotten a tremendous amount of positive legislation passed with absolutely NO help from the Republicans. This President IS fighting for most of us.
I have even seen some so-called, rational friends of mine unveil a sickening racist side when speaking about this President that I never expected. Some people STILL cannot handle that we even have a non-white President for 3 years now! I'm not joking and I'm in a highly Democratic area of the country. Everyone should educate themselves on the issues before voting, but form my point of view, I could NEVER vote for the conservative, right-wing, evangelical nonsense I hear coming from the Republican side. They truly ARE for the 1% and are for taking US backwards in this country, not forward. President Obama clearly deserves another term.......Mitt Romney?? Newt Gingrich?? are you fucking kidding me with this clown show of Republican candidates. I support President Obama
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Re: Dead Heads For Obama 2012

#113324 2 years, 9 months ago
scar1et_f1re wrote:
For what it's worth Ron Paul was an obstetrician - and he will never get my vote.

It does not affect ME personally, but anyone who tries to tell another family that they cannot have an abortion does not deserve to be given any powers. I am in theory opposed to abortions, but there are cases where they make sense. It's a horrible decision to have to make, but who the hell is he to tell anyone else what to do with their bodies and their families. Sorry guy, we had enough deaths from self inflicted abortions before before Roe v Wade.

Perry is out as of today.

And Newt, what a bloody fool (my opinion). This is how you handle a crisis? (one of his former wives (#2 of 3 ??) went on TV this morning to say Newt wanted an open marriage (I didn't see, but read highlights, I'm sure there was more).

Newt would not comment beyond saying it was more than 10 years ago and a family matter.

Gingrich referred all inquiries about the matter to his two daughters, who have criticized the decision.
"My two daughters Kathy and Jackie have sent a letter to the president of ABC News, saying from a family perspective they think this is totally wrong," he said. "They think ABC should not air anything like this and that intruding into family things that are more, that are more than a decade old are simply wrong."



Just wanted to acknowledge that I suppose the Newt thing should probably be a nothing when deciding who to vote for. I let my dislike for the man infect my opinion of his policies. I just remember the old Newt, the anti-lets work together speaker of the house who was thrown out of office after having an 11% or so approval rating. I wanted to kill him back them, but I suppose he was better than the current speaker "Boner" as I like to call him. But to be fair, I don't know much about Newt policies. He does look like the human form of the devil (to me) when he grins his silly grin. But that not a reason to vote for or against him anyway.

And IMO every vote should count. Doesn't always work that way, but if you choose not to vote imo you have no right to complain who gets into office.
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Re: Dead Heads For Obama 2012

#113326 2 years, 9 months ago
Here are some facts about what our President has accomplished so far...

www.sites.google.com/site/presidentobamasrecord/home
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Re: Dead Heads For Obama 2012

#113329 2 years, 9 months ago
Eighty-four ethics charges were filed against Gingrich during his term as speaker. After extensive investigation and negotiation by the House Ethics Committee, Gingrich was sanctioned $300,000 by a 395–28 House vote. It was the first time in history a speaker was disciplined for ethical wrongdoing.

How quickly the voting public forgets.......

Mitt Romney- Yeah lets put a venture capitalist in charge of maxamizing the profits of our country, ohh wait we are bankrupt...I am sure he is the kind of guy that can that we need when it comes to those "important cuts" within our budget. Speaking of budgets check out last years.

Where would you make cuts?

I like graphs and charts, because like they say "a picture is worth a thousand words." Graphs tell multiple stories and quickly allow you to visualize just how things really are.
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Re: Dead Heads For Obama 2012

#113334 2 years, 9 months ago
Iriecycle- Not exactly sure where that rant was going brother but either way Im personally not putting anything towards Obama. I have considered Ron paul and really like what he has to say about restoring America and i can dig it but chances are there will be another stolen election. i have read and reasearched all side and continue furthur knowledge but the way i see it the only way to win the game is to not play. I truly dont feel fit for this society which is a scary concept after just graduating college. Just look around folks we have so much at our fingertips yet we see a falling nation. Suicide rates are sky rocketing, people without jobs-families hell my dad is going to loose his job that he has worked for 20years. I see the stress on my mother... health wise its seems as if she aged 10 years over the last 3 months. Sorry to get personal but this shitstorm is real and it doesnt look like putting my vote towards some high ranking piece of shit is going to solve anything. I suppose it all comes down to greed.
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Re: Dead Heads For Obama 2012

#113340 2 years, 9 months ago
jk420 wrote:
Here are some facts about what our President has accomplished so far...

www.sites.google.com/site/presidentobamasrecord/home


Yea he froze my pay for two years and took away my hard earned bonuses!
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Re: Dead Heads For Obama 2012

#113344 2 years, 9 months ago
SunshineSue wrote:
deadegad wrote:
Ron Paul !!

Only if you really, really hate women and clean water and air.


Nobody's a perfect candidate. . ..
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Re: Dead Heads For Obama 2012

#113353 2 years, 9 months ago
FurthurFlower67 wrote:
jk420 wrote:
Here are some facts about what our President has accomplished so far...

www.sites.google.com/site/presidentobamasrecord/home


Yea he froze my pay for two years and took away my hard earned bonuses!


Ouch, that's hittin where it hurts. If you don't mind, I'm curious what happened there.
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Re: Dead Heads For Obama 2012

#113362 2 years, 9 months ago
scar1et_f1re wrote:
FurthurFlower67 wrote:
jk420 wrote:
Here are some facts about what our President has accomplished so far...

www.sites.google.com/site/presidentobamasrecord/home


Yea he froze my pay for two years and took away my hard earned bonuses!


Ouch, that's hittin where it hurts. If you don't mind, I'm curious what happened there.


to be honest heck if I know! I dont follow this kinda stuff and I hate when I have too! But apperently he wanted to cut down on the country's debt problem or something like that so he froze all the civilians under the fed gov. pay for two years and took away the bonuses he found to be unnecessary. However none of those congress men and women had anything affected to their pay....

Instead those congress men and women left me scared straight if I would have a job anymore with the govt shutdown scare that was going on last year. And who even knows if thats over?

I am not part of the problem so why do I need to be affected? No pay raise for two years does not make me want to work to my best ability. It gives me NO motivation...

I'll stop rambling.... lol
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Re: Dead Heads For Obama 2012

#113374 2 years, 9 months ago
FurthurFlower67 wrote:
scar1et_f1re wrote:
FurthurFlower67 wrote:
jk420 wrote:
Here are some facts about what our President has accomplished so far...

www.sites.google.com/site/presidentobamasrecord/home


Yea he froze my pay for two years and took away my hard earned bonuses!


Ouch, that's hittin where it hurts. If you don't mind, I'm curious what happened there.


to be honest heck if I know! I dont follow this kinda stuff and I hate when I have too! But apperently he wanted to cut down on the country's debt problem or something like that so he froze all the civilians under the fed gov. pay for two years and took away the bonuses he found to be unnecessary. However none of those congress men and women had anything affected to their pay....

Instead those congress men and women left me scared straight if I would have a job anymore with the govt shutdown scare that was going on last year. And who even knows if thats over?

I am not part of the problem so why do I need to be affected? No pay raise for two years does not make me want to work to my best ability. It gives me NO motivation...

I'll stop rambling.... lol


Not sure that's all on O's shoulders, not saying it is or is not, but that go'vt shutdown stuff was pure politics. And the civilians are the collateral damage. Personally I blame others, not O. My understanding is there was a supercommitte of Senators (representatives ?? - I forget), the "cream of the crop?" who were supposed to reach a compromise on passing a budget deal. They rarely met and then threw up their hands when they failed to reach any agreements. Then all of a sudden it was O's fault.

But the speaker of the house, just call him the big Boner (ok it's beiner or something, but he's a big dick imo) felt that if an agreement cannot be reached by the day he wanted it, the government should be shut down, no checks for anybody who relies on the government for anything. At first he was unwilling to further extend the talks. The Boner didn't care that it could ruin peoples lives. Hey Boner, this is the stuff that destroys peoples lives and families....and causes people to take drastic measures, perhaps even a life of crime or suicide.

Boy do I dislike some politicians.
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Re: Dead Heads For Obama 2012

#113378 2 years, 9 months ago
FurthurFlower67 wrote:
jk420 wrote:
Here are some facts about what our President has accomplished so far...

www.sites.google.com/site/presidentobamasrecord/home


Yea he froze my pay for two years and took away my hard earned bonuses!


I'm certainly sorry for any financial loss anyone has had, but I do have to say that it is not just people who work for the gov't that have felt the same loss. It's the private sector too. I've been in the same job for 14 years...I not only lost all bonuses the past few years, I also took a 5% pay cut in 2010 that was promised to be given back in 2011 and has yet to be given back. I haven't had a raise in 4 years and have had all my expenses increase in that time. My point is, it's not Obama's direct fault for your loss. It's the state of the economy and those kind of issues and budget constraints within the gov't get voted on by Congress as well. If the Republicans get what they want though, many, many gov't jobs and agencies will be eliminated. There is no perfect candidate or answer...but to upend everything this President has done so far, because the country is not recovering fast enough for all of us, would be utter madness in my opinion. We are headed in the right direction.

I do find it amusing how some people on here in their 20's complain how they're so disillusioned, and yet still refuse to vote. With all due respect to those people.....If you don't vote, you lose your political voice and therefore your complaints fall upon deaf ears. Do yourself a favor and vote!......or don't complain. The funny thing is, I can hear myself making the same complaints in my 20's and now they amuse me at 44. Now, these issues matter MUCH more to me and I care much more about our political system. In my 20's....not so much.

This is all just one man's opinion...peace
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