patchmyfurthur wrote:

First of all, the White House has already said they will veto SOPA, and clearly it will never get out of Congress anyway. I agree with you on NDAA, and even Obama's signing statement saying he will not allow detentions is small comfort. it is still less destructive than the original Patriot Act, though.
However, given what he has had to work with for a Congress, I'd say Obama has accomplished some good things. Don't overlook the importance of his reversals of the Bush policies on EPA regulations, stem cell research, family planning availability and health care. I believe you're under 26, Patrick, which means thanks to Obama (and many, many others) and his health care reform act, you can hang on to your parent's insurance for several years longer. Anyone on the forum who has had previous health problems can now get the insurance that they would previously have been denied. Insurance companies can no longer cancel your policy after you're diagnosed; this alone is literally a life saver. I've seen patients diagnosed with cancer who then get their insurance yanked the minute they need it, effectively handing them a death sentence. He's ended Don't Act/Don't Tell, ended enforcement of DOMA, and appointed 2 progressive women to the Supreme Court. Most of our troops are out of Iraq, Osama Bin Laden and Muhammar Gaddafi are dead, and we've supported uprisings and significant change in the Middle East. Is it enough or everything I want to see from our government? Not even close, but it's a hell of a lot better than the previous 8 years or more.
It's easy to lose faith in the system. But voting isn't a sign of support for the status quo, imho, it's the only way to start changing it! Take care who you vote for, make it count! That's going to be a whole lot more helpful to everyone than not voting at all.

For what it's worth Ron Paul was an obstetrician - and he will never get my vote.

It does not affect ME personally, but anyone who tries to tell another family that they cannot have an abortion does not deserve to be given any powers. I am in theory opposed to abortions, but there are cases where they make sense. It's a horrible decision to have to make, but who the hell is he to tell anyone else what to do with their bodies and their families. Sorry guy, we had enough deaths from self inflicted abortions before before Roe v Wade.

Perry is out as of today.

And Newt, what a bloody fool (my opinion). This is how you handle a crisis? (one of his former wives (#2 of 3 ??) went on TV this morning to say Newt wanted an open marriage (I didn't see, but read highlights, I'm sure there was more).

Newt would not comment beyond saying it was more than 10 years ago and a family matter.

Gingrich referred all inquiries about the matter to his two daughters, who have criticized the decision.
"My two daughters Kathy and Jackie have sent a letter to the president of ABC News, saying from a family perspective they think this is totally wrong," he said. "They think ABC should not air anything like this and that intruding into family things that are more, that are more than a decade old are simply wrong."

Here are some facts about what our President has accomplished so far...

www.sites.google.com/site/presidentobamasrecord/home

deadegad wrote:

Only if you really, really hate women and clean water and air.

jk420 wrote:


Yea he froze my pay for two years and took away my hard earned bonuses!

FurthurFlower67 wrote:


Ouch, that's hittin where it hurts. If you don't mind, I'm curious what happened there.

scar1et_f1re wrote:


to be honest heck if I know! I dont follow this kinda stuff and I hate when I have too! But apperently he wanted to cut down on the country's debt problem or something like that so he froze all the civilians under the fed gov. pay for two years and took away the bonuses he found to be unnecessary. However none of those congress men and women had anything affected to their pay....

Instead those congress men and women left me scared straight if I would have a job anymore with the govt shutdown scare that was going on last year. And who even knows if thats over?

I am not part of the problem so why do I need to be affected? No pay raise for two years does not make me want to work to my best ability. It gives me NO motivation...

I'll stop rambling.... lol

jk420 wrote:


Yea he froze my pay for two years and took away my hard earned bonuses!