I agree with those who've said, addressing these situations while they're happening during a show is the way to go. I wanted to clarify that the tambourine lady I saw at the end of the NYE show so I didn't have to endure her noise - if I had, I'm sure I and others would have tried to nicely persuade her to put the thing away. Drummer sticks dude was right behind me and he was playing on his thighs, though I could tell he wanted to play on the back of my seat. As long as I didn't look at him, I couldn't hear him, but if he'd started on my seat I would have kindly asked him to not do that and explained why. And I did give a look to him and his sticks and I think he understood that beating on the chair wasn't acceptable and I appreciate that at least he got that much right! Bell girl I fucked up with. She showed up NYE wearing no bells, and I was so thrilled I thought that was a done deal. What I didn't realize was that she had her gigantic bell belt in a bag and put it on after she was situated. What I should have done was give her a hug when I saw her bell-less, and told her that I was happy to see her without bells because they are really super loud. That could have been a nicer/kinder way to let her know she's way too loud, without doing so in the heat of the moment. But as I said, I assumed - incorrectly - that she was forgoing the bells that night and I said nothing when I had the opportunity. As luck would have it, she was much farther away from us that night so we didn't hear her when she was in her seat, which wasn't much. But the night before it was way too much! If I'd been near a harmonica, I'd have tried to talk to the person nicely as well.
I also totally agree with those who've said that nothing is gained when confronting folks in a really aggressive and negative manner, particularly when they're likely high anyway. For example, last year at Eugene, this young dude rolled up behind us on the lawn and proceeded to talk loudly and non stop for like a half hour about how much the music means to him. I kept looking at him but he didn't get it. A lot of folks just are not aware of anything but themselves. It's just how our society is right now, sadly. So finally he leaned forward and said to me, "is my cigarette bugging you?" and I said, "actually yes, but more than that, all I can hear is you talking over the music...", and I smiled at him because I didn't want to piss him off either, you never know how a person will react to anything at a show. I was as nice as I could be about it given it bugged me a lot, and he was really embarrassed and shut up right away. But still, it was the same on NYE, a guy behind me kept explaining every single song to his lady and I wondered how he could enjoy and experience the music when he's always talking...OTOH, a friend of ours who we've never been to a show with came the second night and just sat there experiencing it all. We never spoke the entire night, other than during intermission. I appreciated that he was open to experiencing it all and not talking through it.
People who text or check their phones all the time are for me, the same as talkers. I don't get it. Why go to a show if you're going to check your facebook page every 2 minutes? I feel sorry for folks who cannot turn off a phone for the duration of a show and just let the experience 'be'....yanno? For me, it's like a holiday to go to a show and switch off from the outer world.
Lastly, yeah, this Jason dude is a jerk. I know because I was one of many in the ADA line who complained about him and his posse (my husband has had to use that line last year). And you know what? Those who had legit issues but don't need a wheel chair had to stand for hours this year to get seats that were more comfortable for them. My husband has some issues that make it nearly impossible for him to sit in most seating areas because he cannot stand/sit every two minutes for folks coming and going. And I can't enjoy a show if I think/know he's uncomfortable. If he's in a seating area where he's comfy and can relax, then I can enjoy the show without worrying about him. Unfortunately, this one group of people have some entitlement issue where they think as locals, they can shove all their friends into the line no matter if it's ADA and the regular line this year. In fact, one of their posse came barreling through the line late in the day, hip checking the guy behind us into the metal railings hard. This guy was just standing there minding his own business and this big doofy ox of a man shoves him into a metal fence for no reason. The nice guy said, "hey! that's not cool, man!" And the doofus turns to him really aggro and says, "NO YOU aren't cool, just move out of my way!" I mean honestly, how is that behavior in the spirit of a show? It's not. Nobody confronted him because there are too many of this crew in line to deal with. It's a drag. I mean, I had great shows, but dealing with this stuff isn't a fun way to start off an evening, y'know? Unfortunately there's no way to monitor these people unless the band/promoters post guards/watchers in the lines to monitor everyone and I doubt they're gonna do that so it is what it is right now.
Last Edit: 2 years, 7 months ago by katie mae.